"achy and sore all over for 10 days"

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a client just contacted me because she has been "achy and sore all over for about 10 days" and is hoping a massage tomorrow will help. she's got an appt next week with the doctor to see if it's not something worse than sore muscles. she's in excellent, athletic condition and this sounds very odd---at the very least a virus. she's wanting the comfort of a massage but i'm hesitant to work on her without doctor's permission. any suggestions?
 
Protocol

Subject to protocol, comfort massages are wonderful, might want to wear a mask.
 
"achy and sore all over for 10 days"

By "subject to protocol," you mean, when in doubt, go with gentle? Sorry, I'm sure I should know this. P.S. I love your Annie Dillard quote. Holy the Firm, yayyy!
 
Best wait

If suspected cold or flu, waiting 'till the symptoms abate is recommended.
 
"achy and sore all over for 10 days"

Thank you Holley, I -should- use my masks more. I wonder if there is any situation in which even gentle work would be ill-advised for the client's sake. But reading my original post I realized how vague it was. I think i was being a bit panicky over this usually very healthy client. She ended up breaking into a high fever last night and went to the ER today, but I'm not sure what her full symptoms are. I'll post when they figure out what it is. Her doctor's appointment would have been on Tuesday.

Thank you again; it's always so helpful to just being able to talk something out---gets my head on straight :) .
 
"achy and sore all over for 10 days"

Hi there,
You mentioned that your client is in excellent shape. I would ask if they haven't been working out too much. I've had clients where this has occurred. Also, you might want to try a natural product called Monolaurin. It comes from coconut oil and acts as a natural anti-biotic. I've used it with great success. Ecological Labs is a good source and you can find them on line. Try the 600mg dosage. Many times I've had clients and co-workers carrying infections and had the pleasure of NOT catching it myself.
 
"achy and sore all over for 10 days"

Oh, those are good suggestions, thank you!
It turns out she was in the hospital four nights with a severe kidney infection (she entered the hospital the day she was supposed to get her massage). Poor thing. It sounded serious and unusual---unusual enough that if it had been me I would have probably gone to the ER, or at least to one of our good medical clinics. In retrospect I would have suggested that.
 
"achy and sore all over for 10 days"

Personally, if I feel like I have to wear a mask for a client, I won't see them.

If the client has felt bad for ten days, and I am to assume that the worst case scenario would be that I may get what they have... here's how that would play out:

  • I end up feeling bad for ten days = I can calculate at least twelve days before I can get back in the office. That is roughly two weeks worth of work.

    Since many clients take a week or two to get back in sync with their schedules when I take vacation, I can expect the next two weeks (post-returning to the office) to be a much lighter than normal schedule.

    If I am to pay my months bills, that becomes a huge burden for me. And, then I have to try to pick up extra work in other places, possibly hold a bill or two - or cross my fingers and hope for the best.

    It's not worth it for me.

Since she has an appointment with the MD for the next week, I would suggest she see the MD before seeing me and refer her to an acupuncturist who is comfortable with these conditions in place of the visit she is hoping for at my office.

But, that's me...



Edit: {Oops... just saw your post above mine. That's what I get for not reading the entire thread. So sorry for your client.}
 
"achy and sore all over for 10 days"

hi pueppi,

it's an interesting point to make about masks. one client told me it's fine to come in with a cold, as the MT can just wear a mask! i think we do have to gauge ourselves and what works for us. i personally for some reason find masks extremely uncomfortable, which makes me feel less focused (this seems crazy to me, of course, since uh, heart surgeons somehow manage), but in my experience it's rare that people want to get a massage with a cold or flu so this has rarely been an issue.

in retrospect, not knowing what it was, it makes sense, in my mind, to avoid working on her---who knew what she was bringing into the massage room? what i had to tamp down was that overwhelming desire to be of some assistance---she sounded desperate. sadly, i now know why: the client had been misdiagnosed twice before she ended up in the ER. her intuition must have been telling her something was really wrong, but since no one was getting it right, she was probably thinking, when all else fails, try a massage!

!best wishes to you and your clients!
 
"achy and sore all over for 10 days"

Learner said:
...her intuition must have been telling her something was really wrong, but since no one was getting it right, she was probably thinking, when all else fails, try a massage!

!best wishes to you and your clients!
Definitely the type of clients we all like to have. Those that trust us. Sounds like you're doing something right!

Back at ya. :)
 
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    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  39. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl Tina works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  40. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  41. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: ASHLEY is a beautiful slim Korean student, snow white skin, 5'2, 100 Lbs, natural C Cup, pink nipples, baby face & voice, can accomodate bbbj cim cof rim dfk, excellent services. KITTY (12pm-9pm) is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business.
  42. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa :๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Thursday Schedule ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณSana 23, , Punjabi girl , very pretty 36 DDD ๐Ÿ˜ˆGFE โค๏ธElena ( Latino ) Big Nature Boobs & SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  43. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  44. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Yuki ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  45. Funlooker:
    Introducing Funlooker - We are a high-class escort agency representing extremely beautiful, passionate, intelligent and sexual girls in Bangkok, Barcelona, Berlin, China, Kuala Lumpur, London, New York, Paris and Tokyo - funlooker.co
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, MIA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile. Come and enjoy.
  47. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธCindy๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธJessica๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธNina Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  48. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Bobo๐Ÿ˜˜โค๏ธAn alluring and skilled new massage girl with an elegant presence and a warm, inviting aura. Her striking figure, accentuated by her graceful posture and her massive 36DD breasts, immediately puts clients at ease.
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young Fun Ivy 30โ€™s with big buttocks 36DD open mind and young student Taiwanese 25โ€™s slime open mind, young cute Tina 30โ€™s with sexy body open mind and sweet GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Barbie Petite Korea Part time School girl Sami Gorgeous Model Type Vietnamese Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Natalie filipina mixed Petite girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
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