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Hi all
I cant seem to get the hang of doing Indian head over clothes. I trained practicing on clients who were undressed except for a towelling wrap and i'm finding it very difficult to carry out a treatment with clothes on. Has anyone got any tips they could share .
Also i was just wondering when you carry out Indian head in an office enviroment do the clients stay at their work stations or is their usually a room provided for privacy. If they are seated at their desks how do you manage to carry it out succesfully while their sitting in a high backed office chair??
 
well I can only do massage THROUGH THE CLOTHES, so can't imagine doing the massage any other way.

the art of performing the massage over clothes is to put a bit more pressure on and use the friction movement of the clothes to your advantage.
 
Did they teach you at college to practice over clothes Daisy? I will keep at it but to me it feels annoying for the client when they have baggy jumpers on etc
 
hiya,
yes, I was taught the traditonal way, but it was quite a few years ago, by Helen McGuiness (who writes all the books).

The modern-take on IHM seems to be an oiled - on the skin massage, or (horror of horrors) a lying down treatment. But, perservere with doing through the clothes, as it so much more versatile.

Re: baggy jumpers, you need to educate your clients to wearing the 'proper' clothes to receive the treatment. T-shirts, polo shirts, shirts are the best thing to massage over. Jumpers, silk, and strappy tops are very difficult.
 
Thankyou for your swift replies they are appreciated! yes if I had to perform on a fully clothed client I would certainly make sure they wore something i could work with. I've been practicing on my boyfriend and he doesnt like it . he told me it didnt feel as effective as it does when i do it the other way ..... then again he was probably just wanting to show off his tan and make me jelous!!

Thanks Daisy.
ps do you do mobile work?
 
hiya Tracy,
yes I do some mobile work, and I have a clinic room in Chester-le-street.
 
Hi Tracy - i was taught to massage with oils on the skin as well as through clothes at college. I have a room at home and so people tend to have their IHM massage with oils. However, I do do quite a few taster sessions and do these all through clothes. Like Daisy said you need to use the clothes to your advantage - jumpers are hopeless but if you have tshirts etc then all you need to do iswork the way over the body using more friction. I suppose you basically don't move around quite so easily.

I've never done a lying down IHm and can't imagine how I would really achieve this - in terms of doing IHM in the office you can buy a portable head rest which you can put onto a table. Don't know if you have seen these. HOpe that helps
 
Hi ya Inner Peace

Where I studied IHM several years ago, the attraction of it was that you can do it fully clothed! Then I discovered some other practitioners did it oiled, how weird I thought. Personally happy now to do both, but one of the ideas of IHM is portability and modesty.

You need to consider clothing as a massage medium; so lots of frictions, and thumb and palm kneading/rolling/pressing techniques.

I would personally use my own portable treatment chair. Some office chairs are OK, some are not. I like those "film director" chairs myself, light, portable, cheap, good height, and can massage through the canvas back if necessary.

Another thing about clothed massage, is that if the client is shy, they will relax into the treatment more than unclothed.

Give clothed treatments ago, it worth it.

Best Wishes

Dave
 
Thankyou Bexx and Dave for your comments. It is something I'm gonna have to practice hard at because I have turned down work in the past because of it. I wish college had taught us both ways though. I guess its like all things... practice makes perfect!
I like the idea of the directors chair, light and easy to carry round .I expect they are quite comfortable too. I will bear that in mind when looking for a suitable chair.
Have read a few posts lately on doing Indian head while lying down, have to say I prefer the old method sitting in a chair. I'm not comfortable with having to disturb client to turn them round to do face, but each to their own. The important thing is to do what feels right and what works better for you and your client.

Tracy
 
I wouldn't do IHM when a client was at their desk for the simple reason that they would be distracted - they need to be able to relax!! It's great to do this outdoors, on a park bench, when it's sunny!

I've done both over clothes (usually) and over skin (my daughter hates the feel of fabric being rubbed). I've also done IHM on dreadlocks.

I felt that I needed to be able to adapt to circumstances and not turn work down because it doesn't fit the pattern.
 
Hi ya Inner Peace

Couple of extra tips:

1. Do a treatment swap with an IHM therapist who is comfortable with clothed massage

2. Do an introductory course on Shiatsu or Thai Massage, as both are clothed massage methods.

Cheers

Dave
 
Hiya Innerpeace

I'll do a swap with you if you like (I don't think I'm too far from you)- I was taught IHM over clothes and haven't had one 'with out clothes' before.

Sue xx
 
Hi, I've done IHM at people's desk as some places don't actually have a private room. I have a portable workstation (FHT, Ellisons, etc sell them) you attach it to the desk and the top part is like that of a therapy chair. It's so easy to carry around and it comes with a bag. I'd fully recommend it if you haven't got room for a chair. It's also very suitable for female members of staff who may have a tight skirt on as, unlike the therapy chair where you have to straddle, this one you sit straight in your office chair and lean forward into the workstation.

Love
 
Thanks everyone for all your comments. You have been great in advising me on this topic and I really appreciate it.

Enchantedmoonbeam I would love to swap therapies with you as I'm eager to get to know more therapists to discuss ideas/problems/and generally to boost morale or have a friendly chit-chat etc. Got a few things going on for the next 2 weeks but some time after that would be ok for me . keep in touch and we will arrange a swap thats convenient for us both (fingers crossed)

Tracy x
 
It's interesting to see how people work differently.

IHM was the first therapy I learned, and I chose that first because I was a bit inhibited about 'touching' other people and thought that as IHM was done clothed it would be a good introduction for me. Lo and behold at the first class we were told to take our tops off, drop bra straps so they were under the arms and wrap a towel round us! We practised like that for the whole course, with oils, and I never thought to ask to practise on someone who was clothed. The thought of doing IHM through clothes now seems weird to me, though that was my original perception of it. Strange.

Ali
 
Enchanted
I just want to say a big Thankyou to you for coming over and doing a therapy swap with me . It was really interesting the different routines we use. I will certainly be adapting my routine and using more of your movements when I perform over clothes.

I practiced your routine on my daughter and guess what , she loved the caterpillar walk when it was done firmly ,so keep it in your routine lol, infact there was loads that she really enjoyed. My boyfriend has yet to sample it but i'm sure he is gonna love it too!

I hope i was able to offer you some alternative moves. We were a bit concious of the time today but next time we'll have a proper treatment each.

Will be in touch about the pamper evening soon .
Thank again... you were brill!! ( and such a lovely person too, it was a pleasure meeting you )

Tracy xxx
 
Awwww thanks Tracy. I enjoyed the swap. I'll email you those moves either today or tomorrow.

Hugs
Sue xx
 
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    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Thursday ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” , Selena, Coco, Yoyo, Tina, Yui, Cici & Dorisโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  36. New spring spa@:
    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–Sexy hot ๐ŸŒนJapanese ๐ŸŒนSingapore ๐ŸŒนgirls working ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹at Nu spring spa ๐Ÿ‘โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–
  37. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธTania Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  38. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, NUR, PRIYA, MONIKA, LOLA LOVE MONICA, AMANDA, LUCY, PREETI, ANGELINA, SARIKA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  39. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, address:6262 hwy7 , unit #1 Vaughan, โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  40. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bella ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs coco ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  41. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Mimi๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A captivating and alluring new massage girl from Korea whose elegance and c
  42. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Yuki ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  43. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietna
  44. Paxton:
    Any Persian Milf out there?
  45. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa(9421Jane st unit127)โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6A4H8.ensuit rain shower available ๐Ÿ’„Sunny is very big boost sexy girl ,she can provide very good massage with sensual touch, nice body slide,๐ŸŒนbeautiful girl long hair Mina can Reduce your pain,back walking,hot stone massage ๐ŸŒนnice friendly Lily strong massage open mind,really popular๐Ÿ”ฅmust try
  46. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: BEBE (10am to 8pm): is a nice young Korean girl with a natural super busty DD Cup, petite small body, open minded bbby cim cof rim, always cooperative, excellent services. out! KITTY (12pm to 9pm): is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business
  47. HollywoodSpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: CINDY, JENNY & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. CINDY is a slim & pretty lady with long dark hair and a pleasing personality. JENNY is slim, attractive
  48. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  49. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMAA, LUCY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUCY, TIFFANY & TINA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUCY is a cute young Vietnamese girl, 5โ€™1โ€, 50Kgs, with a full range of services available. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little 33โ€ booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey
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