Anyone hear anything about (12) Asian Houses busted last night and today

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I heard they closed down yo mams house too.

 

[Mark G]

N.Y. / REGION
Human-Trafficking Suspect Is Arrested While Gambling
By KIRK SEMPLE
Published: January 10, 2011
A Queens woman charged with forcing young Korean women into prostitution was arrested while gambling at a Connecticut casino, officials said on Monday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/11/nyregion/11smuggle.html

A.S. Kim (52) found in Mohegan Sun with $17k in cash.

 

[Jeff H.]

The ROK is a very corrupt (ranked much higher than the good ole' US of A), quasi democracy where nepotism and big business keep the majority of the hard working folks out of the mix. If you're not part of the chaebol, then you don't got a shot. The business girls of the ROK, short on education and family connections, sell it for a reason.

 

[monkey95]

Case is building. If the FBI got the bank account numbers and finanical information.

Treasury is looming. Who knows when this will all end but hey there are only two things GUARANTEED in life. And one of them is NOT that Kgirls are the best f**k in the business.

1. DEATH
2. TAXES

 

[Marzhelmus]

nytimes story sounds like bullshit...

yeah some girls get smuggled in... but i never heard of someone getting smuggled in to become a white collar professional...

 

[humanweapon101010]

If live your life as customer, equity partner, advertising middleman or other supplier, you might be a little sheltered or blind to the darker sides of this business.
And as a competitor, you might aspire to deflect unwanted attention onto your rivals.
It would make convenient scapegoat for all if alleged misdeeds could be attributed to an already closed place.

Activists, advocates and editorial writers will use inflated and inflamed versions with suspect or composite facts. The cited 'Restore NYC, a nonprofit that helps human trafficking victims' says
.



There are other examples of rather privileged women going pro (and some examples of them getting caught). Stanford Law grad, trophy wife of dotcom billionaire:

http://www.businessinsider.com/stanford-law-grad-turned-escort-sentenced-to-home-detention-2009-9
http://abovethelaw.com/cristina-schultz/

Pseudo-anonymous board commenters can takes things out of context, too:

Flophouse backroom:

 

[*?jessie?*]

That's why I stopped going to NYC places and now I am looking to stop going to NJ places as well. It seems some of these places get your number and know who you are. For some reason, they think the only pussy you want is Asian but it's far from reality.

The only reason I went to these places was because it was cheap and they delivered the goods without the drugs or theft or hassling. But now I prefer to invest my money for my benefit. I feel sorry for their situation but I am not to give money to this situation anymore. Nor will I give my money to drugged out or personal issues ebony, white or latina pussy either who do not deliver the goods or try to steal from you.

Good luck to all and all the best.

 

[Amoro]

Tastebud,
I fully understand.
That's why I used "Anything's possible" in my title box.
I also said this: If the story is true, and it just might be, it's a fucking shame...

I'm not naive and fortunately, for me, I haven't run into any girls (and I've known a lot of them outside the AMPs as they are friends of my wife) who have a horror story.

If you can find a story about Chinese or Korean snakeheads that has been printed in this area with the snakehead's names and details like the girl in question provided, I'd like to read it.

In all my years of doing this, I've yet to see one.

And of course the stories happen and have happened in the past but we're talking about this latest action by the FBI. I don't think it applies here..

 

[RemontyPilar]

RH, I understand your incredulity but in this world that we inhabit all things imaginable and unimaginable happen. As a monger with a conscientious I can imagine there is a part of us that finds these kinds of stories hard to accept, that inner resistance is there, we don't want to believe this kind of thing happens.

As you state, a girl working with the ICE clearly has a motive to create a dramatic sympathetic story, but for the case to fly the details need to be provided so that investigations can be conducted and offenders apprehended, the truth eventually emerges from that process. If their stories don't add up they don't get the pass.

Snakeheads were pervasive during certain periods and less so now but the offenses reported took place at some point in the past. Even so, a snakehead who has chosen organized crime as a way of life and has a working scheme will probably continue to work the scheme with modifications in new markets, so while this is less likely to happen in SK today, partly due to media exposure of these stories and crackdowns, they might be replicated somewhere else like Mainland China (wealth disparities there are dramatic). So in a sense the topic is always relevant to the ICE and governments with vulnerable populations.

As a customer, a friend, or even an advertiser, it is unlikely you will ever get a girl who will reveal her full story, you can imagine there are many reasons for that like they are there to make you feel good,they simply might be scared to talk about these things, or perhaps you haven't run into the girls with the worst tales to tell. I think the girls are likely to be less afraid for themselves than for their families and while nothing might have happened to them as horrific as described in Jaxx post (#80 of the thread) the fear of retaliation because of default is enough to keep girls working to pay back, after all the reason they may have choose the agency knowingly or not probably has something to do with their peeps in many cases but I suspect nothing so dramatic like the beating story reported.

You are truly fortunate not have had a robotic experience , read a TOFTT here or elsewhere, this is pretty common actually, that is in part what keeps many reading the boards, most have not been as lucky as you.

Finally, no matter what the profession, many of us really don't know what we are getting into, even if we intern and do our research, you have to live it day in and day out. I can imagine a legal teen or young twenty-something thinking, "I like sex, I like money, piece of cake", then the day to day reality hits and it is a different story. What they do next is what is key, denial is a bitch and impulsivity is a bitch. Young people are usually naive and stupid but unfortunately that is the time we need to make choices that determine our lives, without a good Rabbi or other wise guidance the world is a minefield!

There are interest on the advertising side and biz side to keep the fantasy going and to protest such stories, I don't blame them, sometimes there is too much reality on the board when all we want to do is forget reality and have fun and get our fix. I want the good people and places to keep on going, I don't want stories like this to kill their businesses.

I hear you RH, I don't mean to be contentious but I write out of respect for those affected, I actually know a few stories about debt bondage and threats but not more crazy shit.

Peace out,
TB

 

[Kelsadate]

But remember this: if a girl has a plausible story and ICE believes her (and they want to believe her, anyway) the girl will get asylum.

I know snakeheads exist. I talked to a girl about them once and she told me about the ridiculous amount of money she had to spend to get here. Not once have I heard about beatings, guns to the head or videotapes.

If the story is true, and it just might be, it's a fucking shame and I'm happy to say that not once have I been with a girl who was doing her job in a robotic fashion.

I suppose those among us with an incredibly high moral compass will read the article and say, "Fuck this. I'm not going to support this trade any more." because I guess you never know if you're getting a "volunteer."

My experience tells me all the girls I've been with knew what they were getting into.
Do they love their jobs? Some do, genuinely. Those who don't, suck it up like the rest of us and go to work every day.

 

[TheDeathMessage]

A more general story, with undated info.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/28/opinion/28kristof.html

 

[Lynci]

I really don't know what you are talking about but "economic superpower" is a flaccid dick. Now a military superpower is a big ol'e throbbing boner. Does Taiwan exist? Is Taiwan the true and one China? F'n A.

Now you know what makes the young girls wet; Irvington is the wet girl capitolatiol of the US of A. The Creator has blessed the US of A, Irvington and Earl-the-Pearl; IMHO.

 

[Tori]

It's Like a Scene From

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATUJG3DSziw&feature=related

 

[dsk]

Most of the girls come here via Japan. The Chinese Koreans worked there, the Koreans worked there,Thai,Viet,and Pinay's too. They get visas there and venture to the US. The girls who get stuck here without papers know If they can't get US immigration visas they will not get back in if they leave. Most if not all still want to live here. Especially if they are older than 30. It's not all roses back home for them either. Only the Chinese think that's the case. But they want to be here too .

 

[Nolfet]

i know of a 25 year old (legit age!) who went back to korea....

she doesn't plan on coming back and is just working from hong kong and macau...


i knew china was supposed to take over as an economic superpower, but not like this! not by stealing our beloved k-girls!

 

[gnxksxmr]

That is better, hate to see a nice place like that disappeared.

 

[ybrjgvty]

They didn't pay their bill so they got dropped!

 

[Kojiro]

OMG you are a genius tell me more.

 

[Khushbakht]

Anyone noticed that NYCwonderland banner is now gone, this house may be one of those that got busted? Anyone know.

 

[petersoduxers]

Drug charges are mentioned in the FBI report and might be the cause of another possible motive for the FBI bust, as it is rummored that some outcall operations also dabble in this and even persuade girls to partake by only sending out the girls who join the party.

Whatever people say, trafficking was a problem in the past, Korea had a serious recession about 11 years ago and wasn't always so prosperous. During those times "employment" type agencies were charging ridiculous rates to bring desperate girls in illegally.
The promise of huge returns ultimately lead some girls into years of work to repay the debt with threats to family as an incentive to keep the payments coming. This probably doesn't happen so much anymore due to crack downs in Korea, wide media coverage there and because an economically depressed America is less the destination for a quick buck. It might surprise you that some of your favorite girls probably got here that way. Years later these girls are speaking up when trying to correct their immigration status leading to the delayed awarness and almost after the fact crackdowns. In spite of what some post out there claim, it is true that some of the girls thought they were coming here for bar work and did not sign up for the KMP scene but debt pressures and the talent food chain probably led to few choices with the MP scene offering them their best chance out of the hole. As for the charges, I seriously doubt that most mamasans today participate directly in schemes to import people illegally to "enslave" anyone. Perhaps the round up is a way to get the accused more open to talking to their local FBI agent.



I doubt the good ol' days will ever return, the USA economy looks like it is in the crapper for a while. Korea is doing a lot better and it is easier to get travel visas these days, eliminating the need for these "evil" opportunist "brokers" but expect to see high priced girls popping in on brief visits to make a quick buck without the broker headaches.