Back Problems?

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Hi

Some suggestions that may help...

First of all I would recommend you see Brian Godfrey ITEC MIPTI

Light Touch Therapy (Spinal Touch) Swedish Massage, London N12

One to One Sessions Tel: 020 8445 6990
email: brian.godfrey2@btinternet.com

Please mention Sue Bailey recommended you so he knows where you got his details from. I can honestly say it is a great therapy for back problems. Alternatively see a good Chiropractor I never had much luck with Osteopaths myself, however I think I was just unlucky with who I saw. Depending on what area you are in? If you are in London I know an excellent one in Bromley or maybe go to your local health food shop and see if they can recommend someone good.

They helped me a great deal when I had a bad Whip Lash injury, they took an x-ray first to see what was going on (which was not even done in the hospital!). This really helped with their consultation and the type of work they had to do. Many things can slightly throw the spin out and the careful gentle manipulation they offer can really make a difference.

Also a good mattress makes a huge difference, if you have an old one or one too soft maybe an orthopaedic one may help. Also exercise is really important too, maybe something gentle to start off with like Yoga.

Also natural supplements with high active ingredients can help:

Alfalfa which is used for inflammation and also is an excellent natural blood purifier.

Also there is Black cohosh again acts as an anti-inflammatory for arthritic and rheumatic conditions, it acts as a mild analgesic (pain reliever) due to the presence of salicylic acid. Also helps with high blood pressure.

Next is Bromelain derived from Pineapples, is a protein-digesting enzyme that simultaneously kills worms in the gastrointestinal tract. It is considered an adjunctive treatment for inflammation and swelling and has been found to posses neuro-muscular relaxing properties that are beneficial for soothing vascular (blood vessel) linings.

Next Burdock which is well known as a blood purifier and also to soothe inflammation in both internal and external tissues.

Capsicum is a stimulant to increase circulation and cardiovascular activity also helping to lower blood pressure. This also soothes inflammation, enhances the removal of toxins from the body.

These are just a few of the herbs to be found in the product I suggest and there are ten more!

I finally recommend anyone reading this to go and have a look:

low back problems & Prolapsed disks under general health discussions by Anahata

It is well worth reading lots of really good information there.

If you would like further information or my free health newsletter please feel free to email me:

suebailey2003@btopenworld.com
 
Hello!

Thank you Mystic for your help. I've read your post and will certainly try a few things. I truly believe that meds and surgery aren't the only solution. We may require them at times... but I think it can be really helpful to look into other avenues.

Again, thank you so much!
 
Hi Marie

You are more than welcome I am glad it was helpful.

Warm Wishes
Sue
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Hi Marie

My Husband over the last 6 years has used Glucosamine Sulphate. He was on 400 ml Ibuprofen but was able to give those up. The body makes Glucosamine Sulphate itself. All I know is that David Wilkie the Gold Medalist swimmer noticed the Americans using it for the injured Athletes in the Olypics. He worked hard to get this over here for us. It is suposed to speed up recovery to joints. Used to be very expensive but it has now come down in price. My husband says you can now get it on perscription now.[sm=dogrun.gif]

Kemana best wishes for a speedy recovery.
 
Hello!

Thank you again Kemana for your advice and input. I really appreciate it!

Indeed, glucosamine seems to be the supplement to take. Everyone talks about it! I will try it.

Athletes also take hot baths with Epsom salts to get rid of aching muscles... and to relax them when they are sore. I have tried that when very much in pain and it did relax the muscles and gave me brief but yet appreciated relief from the pain.

Thank you again!
 
I posted some blub on 'Low Back Probs & Prolapsed disks in General Forums - General Health Discussions - that may be of help.

There's a bit more on Marie's Thread for info on Prolapsed disks on this forum & more on my websites.

It's relatively rare that surgery is needed and it doesn't have a very good track record. I'm not even sure if anyone has actually researched the outcomes.

There's been a small study to suggest that Glucosamine Sulphate helps maintain hieght in the vertebral disks.

We all tend to lose hieght in our disks as time goes by because they gradually lose the ability to absorb & retain water. So take GS & drink plenty of water to future proof them!

And keep moving. Too much rest will cause a loss of strength & tone in the muscles, a build up of inflammation (that you may not feel until you do try & move) and stiffness that may become permanent if appropriate action isn't taken to mobilise the area.
 
Hi Anahata

I read your piece and would recommend anyone reading this to go and have a look:

low back problems & Prolapsed disks under general health discussions

It is well worth reading lots of really good information there.

Thank you for adding your info

Warm Wishes
Sue
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Hello Kemana and Marie,

I am new to this forum. I posted a few queries and my experiences on Marieโ€™s thread on โ€œ โ€œ Prolapsed disc and in lot of pain โ€.
I am also suffering from Prolapsed disc and have started taking Glucosamine. It was suggested to me by my physcian but not by my ortho specialist. I am presently taking 1500 mg of Glucosamine per day. The doc says that I should take this for over 3 months. Please tell me the dosages being taken in your cases.
Kemana, is your husband taking Glucosamine for past 6 years continuosly. Any idea if it helps regenerate the damaged discs. The composition which I am taking is Glucosamine 1500 mg+ MSM 1500mg+Chondroitin 250 mg+ hosts of Vitamins n minerals. Its all clubed together in a sachet of 30 grams.

Best wishes.
Atul.
 
Hello Atul.

I simply take 600 mg of glucosamine every day. Been doing that for almost 6 months now. I'm always careful about supplements; I never go overboard. Most aren't stored by the body anyway and others may actually harm you if you take too much... so my humble opinion is to always follow the recommended dose. If your doc says it's ok to take 1500 mg for three months then, go ahead. Should always be under medical surveillance anyway. I was told 600 mg in my case was more than enough.

You must keep active too. As soon as I started to hobble around the house, the better I got. I was in excruciating pain... but things started to improve just then.

Good luck!

Marie
 
Thanks Marie.
I had read about your pain and recovery in the thread started by you. BTW, has your doc allowed you to bend forward. Has your pain gone totally? Could you please share the exercises recommended to you by your doc. I mentioned mine in your thread.
I will also consult some other orhto specialist about verification of the dosage in my case. I feel it embarrassing to ask my present ortho whether I should start it coz he might feel offended. Yes, moving about does help. Initially, lot of my friends suggested total rest but that didn't help much. The kind of pain as expressed you and others was felt by me 2 or 3 times about 10 years back over a period of say 2-3 years. Those days I use to play lots of tennis and badminton( about 2 hrs daily in the morning ). Taking rest for about 2- 3 days used to relieve the pain and then I used to start Tennis and all those forward bending exercises. It was only lately after I had stopped playing for past 10 years that this pain started in my left hip which got diagnosed as disc prolapse. Looking back and the kind of pain described by members here and also by some of my friends....I feel that the pains which I had experienced about 10 years back must have been due to disc prolapse.....had I not neglected that condion then...perhaps I would have been in better shape now( coz I could have avoided lifting heavy stuff, forward bending exercises, badmonton etc ). This present condition developed when recently I was packing and shifting my household items to another house....lots of forward bending and lifting heavy stuff must have taken its toll.
With my experience I would suggest to readers of this thread that please don't take back pains especially severe back pains casually even if they vanish after 2-3 days. Just a simple x-ray could reveal disc prolapse or any degeneartion there in( MRI only needed to see the extent of nerve pressings etc ). Timely precautions can help future pains to a large extent.
Also, as I read on the net that most of the disc prolapse( say >90% ) takes place between L4-L5 and between L5-S1. Most of the times it happens in the mornings....the reason not known. I feel that it may be coz since it is said that before playing in the morning one must do some warm up exercises........also not lift heavy stuff or do strenous work within an hour of waking up. Therefore, we must be careful in the mornings even if we are fit to avoid strenous works.
Just my thoughts.
Best wishes.
Atul.
 
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    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–Sexy hot ๐ŸŒนJapanese ๐ŸŒนSingapore ๐ŸŒนgirls working ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹at Nu spring spa ๐Ÿ‘โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–
  36. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธTania Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  37. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, NUR, PRIYA, MONIKA, LOLA LOVE MONICA, AMANDA, LUCY, PREETI, ANGELINA, SARIKA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  38. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, address:6262 hwy7 , unit #1 Vaughan, โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  39. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bella ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs coco ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Mimi๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A captivating and alluring new massage girl from Korea whose elegance and c
  41. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Yuki ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  42. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietna
  43. Paxton:
    Any Persian Milf out there?
  44. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa(9421Jane st unit127)โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6A4H8.ensuit rain shower available ๐Ÿ’„Sunny is very big boost sexy girl ,she can provide very good massage with sensual touch, nice body slide,๐ŸŒนbeautiful girl long hair Mina can Reduce your pain,back walking,hot stone massage ๐ŸŒนnice friendly Lily strong massage open mind,really popular๐Ÿ”ฅmust try
  45. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: BEBE (10am to 8pm): is a nice young Korean girl with a natural super busty DD Cup, petite small body, open minded bbby cim cof rim, always cooperative, excellent services. out! KITTY (12pm to 9pm): is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business
  46. HollywoodSpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: CINDY, JENNY & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. CINDY is a slim & pretty lady with long dark hair and a pleasing personality. JENNY is slim, attractive
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMAA, LUCY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUCY, TIFFANY & TINA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUCY is a cute young Vietnamese girl, 5โ€™1โ€, 50Kgs, with a full range of services available. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little 33โ€ booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 girls are working today, young cute Vivian 22โ€™s and young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks open mind, pretty EFG Ella and sweet Tina with curve body are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
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