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Except for one of my regular place(that cannot be named here)everywhere i go business seems very slow...too many places?economy?lack of service scare customers away?I believe the classic,"give me-give me-no return-get out of here,princess" attitude in most massage parlour has gotten to them.Hopefully that will clean up the "domain".Notice that most of the ones going independants are the ones with no real clientele,also are the ones that move from one place to another often.May be that "miss iamnotthatkind"worked 10 years ago,but now...So what do you guys think?
 
my theory: since business is not down everywhere, guys might be looking to go to discrete places as a lot of people (girlfriends and wives) are taking time off work right now...
 
aggregate business is down. places that give a good relative value still do well.
 
I don't think buisness is slow at all in most places.There are many places where it is still difficult to get an appointment for the time you want.Examples:Le Notre Dame,Isis,Kama,then down the scale to 4227 St.Jacques,4008 Notre Dame,Leonel,just to name a few.If buisness was slow we would see more specials going on.There definitely is a huge amount of competition going on out there and a hell' va lot of horny guys as well.
 
It's just like any other business that is affected by the economy. I can tell you that my activity has been down substantially since things have gotten slower at work. The days where I would get a massage in the afternoon, and then go spend $200 for an hour with an SP later that night are long gone. Even if things get back to normal at work, I'd still stick to my current spending habits.
 
I think there's alot of competition for who can do alot more for less compared to other mp's and sp's.I mean i read here on the board 80 for a hj or thai massage?IAt that price alot of the guys are getting fs
 
I think that business is off in most places and simply put there isn't the same value for the $$$ as there has been in the past. Certainly one can visit an incall Sp and get his rocks off for $80. almost anywhere in the city so compared to a MP where the entry is approximately $50. + options and a price of $90 (for a simple massage and a HJ) to $150. for (FS and a massage) economically it makes more sense to see a SP. So that from an accounting point of view perhaps explains where the clients who were going to MP have ended up. From another point of view, when I started going to MP's the girls were much more into their clients. What I mean is that they were focused on making sure that the experience was amazing from A to Z. They took the time to ensure that the massage was done well, to relax and put the client in the mood. They were I'm sure interested in having those clients come back to see them again and again (I know I did) and hence they ensured themselves of a regular clientele and regiular income. I find that when I see a new MT more often that not the massage is a quick rub down followed by a flip and an explantion of her options and prices and then what follows leaves me disappointed since even the climax isn't done well. No sensuality in doing a HJ, BJ or FS. It is a get it over with.......NEXT ! More and more I have moved away from the MP scene (except for my favorites) and into the world of SP since I can have completely meaningful sex at a much chaeper cost
 
Several masseuses tell me business is slightly down, the ones that have less business are the rip off bait and switch places. Mostly salons.
 
Business can be down for people who dont offer good service. Ones that dont understand that good service equals repeats.
Many are ripping you guys off.
I always hear from guys that alot dont know how to really massage, and their thai is them rubbing their boobs for 5 min and then ask guy to flip.

80 or 100 for thai massage is good price.
If you are getting full service for that price than i would be carefull with who you are with.
 
Every escort outcall/incall service girls get from $60 to $120 for full service,rest of what we pay go to agency,driver,etc
The legit salon get less $ than any agency and offer more(rent,decor,ads,electric,towels,permit,risks),the massage girl get more $ for less service than the escort.
Another exemple:outcall massages are offered(supposetly no sex)for $120 an hour,you pay for room on top,and get no real choice before paying for that room.,no security that you won't wait for nothing and if you chose to bring them in your home,thereafter they(and their pimps)know your address...
If you do real incall,it is rarely in a very luxurious and well maintained place,most are in bad areas and i even got mugged once.
If girls multiply the number of days they work and pay for more and more ads everywhere it certainly ain't because they are too busy...
If salon now are open 24 hours same topo...
 
I agree with you on one thing:most young girls have no idea what sensuality means,..
 
it is sad you are right. Lets hope those girls wake up and be strong women and not feed lazy bf.

Its not them some dont know what sensuality is "duetoday". We all try to be sensual, but sometimes even the best of us cant be like that with every client, personalities dont mesh, or many other factors play into being sensual. I compare it to dating :)

Girls who pay for ads, is for advertising and getting their name out. Just like pepsi, coke, revlon and so many others do. So i dont agree about girls who multiply their days or if they put too many ads or advertise cause they are not busy. They are doubling their days cause they are that busy and need more days to see the requests they are getting :) then again i could be wrong.

24 hour salons are in now cause not all men can come for a massage between the hours of 10am and 10pm. I think it is a smart idea for salons to open late.

I am sorry you got mugged that is awful. hope you are okay "Duetoday"
 
I don't agree on girls working more to "accomodate" clients. I have been going to salons and girls 5-6 times a week for the past 35 years and when they have lots of clients,they work less days...it is a classic...ask any salon owner...Forget about "i am there for you" it is "i am there for your $",we are not that stupid,most of us can find our way home in the dark,thank you.This is a fantasy,like a play or a movie that gets to you.When you cry during a movie,you still know it is "only" a movie but it is good enough that for a minute you almost forget it.
An excellent SP or MP is an actor/ress, none of that "we don't connect shit",it is an actor in a play,a fantasy for Godsake...
 
It is after vacation and just before back to school, people have to put money towards the credit card bills, rent/mortgage and tuition for the kids. There is always an acute money shortage around this time of the year.
 
There are many movies out there with 2 actors that dont have any chemistry what soooo over, and the movie ends up sucking cause of that.
So i dont agree that its all acting for us. Chemistry is either there or it isnt, You cant fake it. Just like you cant fake friendships or getting along with other people.

And Girls will work an extra day cause she is in high demand. I am a masseuse and i know many salon owners.
And girls work more hours, just like YOU WORK more hours at your Job.

but what i must say it is sad that duetoday and roger10-4 have such low opinions of MP, SP, even women in general.
I worked at 3 salons, 2 independent parlours and i have never met one girl that is on welfare or act the way you suggested Roger.
Every mp I have met and worked with are hard working ,intelligent, talented and bright women.
They are putting themselves thru school, or paying off their student loans, taking care of their children, or parents. In short they are amazing.

And if you are yet to find an mp you get along with maybe you need to readjust your attitude to them, and then they will treat you better and you will have chemistry, or as you call it ACT nicer to you.

There might be a shortage of good mps out there, but there is still ALOT of great ones out there. You just have to find that one or 5 if you wish :) that you mesh, have chemistry with and offers the things you want.
Places like eau claire, kama,spa isis, Luna, malezia, maison massage, loft secret and many others have amazing wonderfull women working there and I am truly sick of men like you two judging them and putting these uneducated, retarded and misguided labels.

And I dont know any girl who is complaining about business being down, so not really sure who you are talking to to get your information.
 
That is what you have to say that i am judging my own perception, that's your defense or comeback,really? Disappointing.

as quoted by you "As we are in the last week or days of the month, the selection of SP and MT is greater. Why ? Because the rent is coming the 1st ... They need $$$. Not that they are missing you. Watch it , it is repetitive month after month after month. And the first week of the month, the welfare check gets in , the rent is pay , so they don't need to go to work... until mid of the month when the cell phone bill is due , the credit card . Classics."


I recommend you reread all the comments you have written on this post and the others you have written, you are all over the map. You contradict yourself with every word you type.
 
Uneducated, retarded and misguided labels is towards your comments about mp, and sps. You did not have to say those words, it means your impression and opinions of them.
 
Can I break up the arguing and get back to the thread? Business may be down at some places but not others. Less due to financial times and more due to customer education. Let's remeber there are 3 participants - Client - MT - Salon owner. To the client it's a luxury that still has a significant cost and value. To the MT it's a living - bills, school whatever.
To the owner (MT) that treats you like an entrance fee/tip - business is WAY down (I have talked to some of the owners I have known over the years). To the owner (MT) that treats you like a valued client who - business is UP. Most treat clients like idiots that can't tell time and will keep coming back for bait/switch - false promises etc. I guess they overlook how we can afford this form of pleasure.
Personal note to Dalia - I credit you your honesty. I read your notes and as attractive as you are - many MT's would use that as a come on to disappoint - must pass. I respect your cards on the table. Good luck.
 
How do you know that more sex workers, nowadays, provide a living to a BF as compared to what it used to be?
 
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    Full season wellness center: Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris , Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  42. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธChristina๐ŸŒธCamila๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธAntonela Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  43. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 masseuse are working today. Vicky,Mia,Ella and Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  44. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY (12pm โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. APPLE: from Hong Kong, very small body, 5' 100Lbs, petite with natural C Cups
  45. HollywoodSpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: NICOLE & SISI. โ˜Ž๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฐโ˜Ž NICOLE is petite, slim and very pretty, with C Cups , long hair & a slim waist. She has nice massage and great services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ€™2โ€, with a beauty ass, excellent massage, and amazing services. Come and see why she is so popular. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood
  46. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream
  47. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMILY, KIKI & CINDY. EMILY is a VERY tiny petite SPINNER superstar of the highest quality. Emily has a pretty face, natural A Cups, slim waist, and a lovely spinner bottom, topped off with the very best of services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body.
  48. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, LISA, SUSAN & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. LISA is a cute & petite Thai/Chinese mixed beauty with decent massage skills and liberal services.
  49. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Niko and Kiki work
  50. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back
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