carman fox must have video carmeras and listen to your session

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i had a talk with the carman fox reception and she told me everything in detail what happened in my last session there. This is twice now that the receptionist of the fox den told me in detail what happened in my session so i must believe there must be video recorders and they must listen in on your session. This is clearly against YOUR PRIVACY AND RIGHTS . THIS IS ILLEGAL
 
Don't you think just maybe the sp who was in the room with you might have just reported what happened? She would know enough details to describe it all enough for the receptionist to know what went on.

Now. Why would it be necessary for the receptionist to have to discuss this with you anyway.

Also, note to anonanon: the foxes are kissing and telling, so watch out :eek: They are going to find out your secret: that you actually prefer brunettes, and the blonde thing is just a cover story to help hide your secret identity.
 
I doubt they've got cameras in the rooms, but they've certainly got intercoms. If they wanted to, they could leave the intercom on so that somebody could monitor what's going on. Of course, I'm sure they'd only do that if they expected some sort of trouble. They couldn't possibly expect any trouble from you could they bostich? :rolleyes:
 
Get ready for another sweet PM. Undoubtedly this is a kiss and tell story either about B's small P or his poor treatment of the ladies so they keep an "eye" on him.
 
You really are unbalanced aren't you? I mean really dude........women talk don't you think it is more likely that the SP you saw said something? I wonder what it was that was mentioned? You wouldn't be acting out of line would you?



My thoughts exactly.......:cool:
 
no the management does listen on your session and watches your session and if this is true CARMAN FOX WILL BE SHUT DOWN FOREVER . your privacy is violated and thats against all rules.. There is one top agency that i'm not going to mention but i walked in the managers room by accident and the video screen on the manager's desk showed a camera pointed right at their vip bed and i saw this myself so it is true some places violate your privacy for sure . If i said who this place was then alot of business men who go there will stop going there for sure .
 
For one, this is a private business, not your house. If you're walking in there thinking your actions and conversations are protected by privacy laws, then you're mistaken. Privacy laws outside of "sanctuary" (i.e.: a private residence, washrooms and changing rooms, doctor's office, council with your lawyer) only extend to your personal information. Should you decide to announce your personal information or expose yourself outside of those protected areas, you F'ed yourself, and no law will protect you.

Second, you assume that a room with a closed door and closed blinds equals privacy. That would be a mistake. Except for washrooms and changing rooms, where a person is expected to expose him/herself, all other areas are within the business's rights to view. If the camera was pointing at the shower, you may have something to argue about. But the Den is technically a "body rub", not a brothel. The assumption is that no "illegal" activity is occurring in the room... That is to say, when you walked into the Den, you cannot argue that you are ignorant of the law. By walking in and paying money for a service, the law will assume that you have understood and agreed to the terms and policies of that establishment, that no illegal activity will occur as a result of your transaction. You are there only for an innocent massage... on a massage table which conveniently looks like a bed. If it were legal for you to be stark naked in that room, with a stark naked girl, doing what any adult would be doing in that situation, then you'd be protected by privacy laws.

Third, the law cares more about the women who work there, than the men who visit them. Accept it. Carman Fox has to assure all possible measures are taken to ensure safety for her girls. Any business which leaves their female employee alone with a potentially aggressive (or in this case, a sexually aggressive male) treads on very very thin ice. The girls who work there have a much better chance of winning a lack-of-safety case against the business, than you have of winning a claim to lack-of-privacy.
 
Excellent post Lounge Lizard! I fear it may result in an uninformed, grammatically incorrect rant, but it was an excellent analysis.
 
Interesting points but if that was the case then they would be an easy mark for any law enforcement bust because all they would have to do is seize the tapes to prove that illegal acts were occurring in the rooms with the knowledge and implicit consent of the agency in question setting them up for easy prosecution, jail terms and/or heavy fines and the end of a very profitable business.

No agency/MP would be stupid enough to dig their own grave like that. I also doubt that the women working there would allow their sessions to be taped so it would have to be done without their knowledge. I am intimate friends with one longtime Fox and she assures me that they are NOT being taped. I will take her word over that of bostich or anyone else.
 
I would believe fb's fox friend over bostich any day too, lol. bostich goes to enough mps to know that many of these places are required to have windows into the rooms, and that those windows remain uncovered, isn't that right. So how could, although I don't believe for a minute that the den tapes or records appts, any surveillance be illegal. It seems like the lack of surveillance or access is illegal, not its presence.

I also think it is long past time for at least one of these mps & agencies to step up and explain exactly what is going on with bostich from their point of view. They have all received enough bad reviews, that any indy would have long since posted a reply & I really don't get why these places don't. It isn't like anyone is going to not believe the sps bostich sees.
 
I have noticed/caught a few sp's, asian mp's etc for video. Do you blame them for this? I know it is illegal, but so is the act...If you don't want to be videoed better go elsewhere or wear a balaclava
 
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Jessica, I agree!

He wouldn't stand a chance with you alone!! Guaranteed or Bank on that!!

You would destroy him in a heartbeat!!!!!!!!!
 
Of course, it's perfectly possible to have surveillance cameras that only provide a real-time feed and don't record anything. As long as somebody's monitoring them, that would provide security for the ladies without providing evidence for any cops who might want to bust the place. I'm not saying the Den does this, however, just that it's possible and reasonable.

Oh, and as far as taking your fox friend's word over that of bostich... I'll pretty much take anyone's word over that of bostich :D
 
There are no cameras in the rooms, I'd know as I'm in one of them at least twice a week. There are cameras in both the back and front stairs, and in the front reception areas however this is a Burnaby By-Law. Don't like it? Don't go there. It's never been a problem for me and I don't expect it to become one. Yes there are intercoms in the rooms and yea, if the receptionist fox was really bored I'm sure she could listen in, but in all honesty do you think she cares about you or what your talking about?

And FO, whats this about brunettes? Covering up what? Huh? NOOOOO!!!!! I'll always be true to my blondies. Hell I don't know what I'd do without a steady diet of blond! I might go crazy! (Or Bananas...:D)
 
Wow, they actually have recordings??? that's way too sexy,:D :D I must ask them for a copy of my with the girl next time...
Oh, by the way, talk about legal issue, I don't think paying for service is legal anyway...
just enjoy the ladies and treat'em right.;)

I am a noob and I poon.
 
I wonder if "post-game" they watch the reel to see what went well and what didn't. :D

Did they ever indicate what they do with the tapes afterwards? Do they delete them after a period of time, and only keep the problem ones?
 
I guess it's for several reasons...
girls' safety's sake
to catch bad clients and ban them
to watch it just because, and
to give their girls year end review based on their performances:D

My 2 cents
 
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