child/no sense of smell

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calling all holistic therapists:

my child has no sense of smell. not sure that he ever has. he's an INCREDIBLY finicky eater, everything tastes the same. he can't smell a jar of peanut butter, he couldn't smell the smoke the day of the fire, he can't smell a bag of bait fish on the pier. nada.

we've tried the allergy route, no help. this coming monday, he has a contrast MRI scheduled. mostly to see if anything is there. it's a possibility that some bad infection burned out the nerves going into the top of the nose. head trauma could do it too, but neither of those fit this child's past.

he's 8, weighs 47 pounds and is hyperactive.

i currently have him on a great multivitamin, zinc supplement and probiotics.

what techniques/modalities might help and what, if any, thoughts do you have?

thanks a million - i'm posting this as a concerned mom
amanda
 


Does he have allergies then? sinus related issues?

Since he is so young, what about his birth experience? Maybe some cranial can clear something up.

What is his diet like? Since he is so picky, does he fill the need with sugar, dairy???
 


I don't have any advice to offer (sorry :( ) but I just wanted to mention that my dad never had a sense of smell. For the most part he never could really describe the taste of any foods (aside from salty or spicy for the most part) but still managed to enjoy eating a good meal well enough. :)
 


Have you tried any CST? That would personally be my first choice of modalities. Especially since he is young and CST is so gentle and sooo effective. Plus it might help him with the hyperactivity.

Good luck and best wishes for your little man......
 


Amanda, do you have a classical homeopath near where you live? In doing a quick search on my homeopathy software, 106 remedies are indicated for complete loss of smell, 11 of which are strongly indicated. There's a good chance homeopathy can help. If you need a referral, let me know. I also think craniosacral work is a great step.
 


I am going to second the suggestion of CST - I think that will be the best bet.

BTW - my son has Sensory Integration Dysfunction. Mostly he is hypersensitive. He has had to overcome a lot of issues around smell, taste and texture for eating. He still can't eat much of anything. The professionals aren't too supportive - or at least weren't when my son was growing up. Many more OT's are familiar with SI problems than in the past. CST is used for this too.

My best advice is to be your child's best advocate. Trust your own instincts over the "professionals" and try to work with who HE is - not who you are told he "should" be.
 


wow - you guys totally rock!

thank you for all of the supportive replies!

he doesn't have allergies or sinus-related issues.

neither of my children's birth experiences were great. but his was better than hers and he recovered more quickly than i did - emergency c-x after about 4 months of continual hard contractions.

diet: chicken, white cheese, milk, bread. bananas, apples, watermelon. yes, lots of dairy, but that's where he gets most of his protein. but not much sugar - he'll even tell you: "sorry, that has too much sugar in it and it makes me feel weird."

i was wondering about CST - and thinking that might help. i'm in touch with a local therapist here to get an appointment asap. that was my first instinct, but not having any experience with CST i wasn't sure. glad to know that instinct was right!

no, we don't have a classical homeopath. the one that claims he is ... is not. that's a story for another day. that sounds awesome though. i'll pm you with location to see if there's one i don't know about!

re: best advocate. i am doing that and there can be SUCH struggle with that! no one seems to believe that he just can't smell - they think it's for attention. i assure you, it's not. so i'm just going ahead with my gut and we'll see what we can do. maybe nothing - but i hope we can.

the next step is the MRI, then testing of the nerves with a neurologist. but i would LOVE to try the homeopath route too.

thanks again guys!
amanda
 


I'm with the above posters. Perhaps some cranial sacral and some polarity work would help. good luck

Jason
 


I think I would lean towards the CST too (there's a lot of CST in MFR) and I've heard some pretty amazing stories in MFR-I.

Perhaps some intra-oral work would be indicated?

I do think that aromatherapy wise basil and peppermint are recommended for loss of smell.... if that's any help.

You're already doing the zinc, and that's probably the first thing I would have suggested.
 


I would work on getting that protein from other sources. Once you get more veggies in there, you can also cut back on all that fruit. At least he isn't into sugar! Not to many kids can say that.

It is great that others agree with the CST! You are going to have to get the best therapist though.

Kids with a traumatic birth seem to have health issues so that will help get to the core.

PLEASE keep us up to date.

PS. nuts can be added into the diet in various ways. Look into raw food preparation!
 


cool - and with the referral from chris, maybe i'm going in the right direction. i'll keep you posted!
 


makingachange said:
neither of my children's birth experiences were great. but his was better than hers and he recovered more quickly than i did - emergency c-x after about 4 months of continual hard contractions.

4 months of contractions and an emergency c-section?!?!? I would definitely want to know what was going on with his membrane system. CN-I and CN-IX could be restricted in the membrane system. Decrease/no sense of smell is a direct indication for a frontal lift (the vertical membrane system). And taste issues point me to temporals (horizontal membrane system).

Check out this CST post about Newborns and c-sections. I talk about c-sections approx 16 posts into the thread. It's a very brief look at how c-sections might effect the craniosacral system.

The hyperactive part also makes me wonder about general membrane tension.
 


cstbrian said:
makingachange said:
neither of my children's birth experiences were great. but his was better than hers and he recovered more quickly than i did - emergency c-x after about 4 months of continual hard contractions.

4 months of contractions and an emergency c-section?!?!? I would definitely want to know what was going on with his membrane system. CN-I and CN-IX could be restricted in the membrane system. Decrease/no sense of smell is a direct indication for a frontal lift (the vertical membrane system). And taste issues point me to temporals (horizontal membrane system).

Check out this CST post about Newborns and c-sections. I talk about c-sections approx 16 posts into the thread. It's a very brief look at how c-sections might effect the craniosacral system.

The hyperactive part also makes me wonder about general membrane tension.

actually that number DOES sound off - i added the weeks up, i went into labor at 26 & he was born @ 35 so that's 9 weeks. sorry for the exaggeration! i will take this info with me to see the CST in town - i'm waiting for her to call me back now. and i will check that topic when i get back from work tonight and can think straight.

thanks!
 


One more thing for you to think about trying is NAET for diagnosis and treatment. Check out the website for Nambudripad Allergy Elimination Therapy.......
 


anastasia - definitely interesting!

we have the appt with the CST next friday at 10 a.m.! not having any experience with CST i don't know how to explain to my son what the session will be like. and unfortunately, i didn't get to talk with her long enough today to ask that question - any ideas?

brian, thanks for the link re: infants & CST. that was amazing!

amanda
 


Amanda,

Definitely keep us updated on your son & his progress.

I'll see if I can come up with anything on the Jin Shin Jyutsu level which would help you address things at home.

In the meantime I would also say get him into a gluten free diet and see if that helps. Also, if you have any sources for
Raw Milk & raw milk cheeses, he would probably do much better on those than on pasturized dairy. In addition make sure he's kept on a clean diet with no artificial ingredients & food coloring as those are often responsible for a great deal of hyperactivity.

Good luck with everything,
Deb/Riversinger
 


makingachange said:
anastasia - definitely interesting!

we have the appt with the CST next friday at 10 a.m.! not having any experience with CST i don't know how to explain to my son what the session will be like. and unfortunately, i didn't get to talk with her long enough today to ask that question - any ideas?

brian, thanks for the link re: infants & CST. that was amazing!

amanda

Has your son had any reiki sessions in the past? If so, you could tell him that it will feel like a reiki session. He'll remain fully clothed and can sit on the table if he's more comfortable that way. You'll be in the room the entire time. It will feel very light and he might not feel anything happening. It will not (should not) feel painful. When the therapist is working on his head, she will be lightly holding different bones. You may feel tired, you may feel very alert, you might even almost feel a bit dizzy. But nothing uncomfortable. She may talk to you and ask you questions about what you are feeling or she may be very quiet 'concentrating' on her work.

I hope this gives you a few things to say. If you have specific questions, please ask. A lot of the session will depend on the level of pediatrics training the therapist has had. The child needs to be met where he/she is comfortable. I've worked with kids on the table, the floor, on my stool, and even in dad's arms. Whatever is best and most comfortable for the child!

Good luck next Friday. Please keep us posted. And again, if you have any questions, please feel free to ask.
 


follow up:
the incredibly thorough MRI came out beautifully! the eeg was perfect and the neurologist would like to do some genetic testing to rule out anything else. with that chromosome test coming back normal, that will mean that the only reason behind his loss of smell (per the doctors) is a head trauma from when he was 3 (fell and landed on the corner of a brick hearth, injury was to the back of his head).

so, we are thrilled with the results of the testing, and very confidant that CST can help the whole situation! even if it's true about the fall, i know the CST can help that too.

amanda
 


oh, and brian - thanks for your info.

no, he's not had a true reiki session, in that i use reiki with him without it seeming like a regular session, you know? we're at home, he's on the sofa or in bed - but never on a massage table.

i know that tomorrow's (the first) session will be short, and i know that her goal is to build trust and comfort with him. she's also hoping that further down the line, she will be able to work inside of his mouth - now would that be the NMT that i learned during my certification, or is that a CST technique and something different?

thanks again!
 
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    ๐ŸŒธ We have 9 hot brown girls Friday ๐ŸŒธ MALIYA, DIYA, SALMA, AMANDA, ANGELINA, ANAYA, SARA, NUR ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  30. EMSpa_schedule:
    Here's tomorrow's sneak peek: For Friday December 27, 2024, our attendants will be Ada ๐Ÿ˜˜, Opal ๐Ÿค—, Cici ๐Ÿฅฐ, Vicky ๐Ÿ‘ and Christina ๐Ÿ”ฅ Call 905-479-6668 to book!
  31. Sabrina Fox:
    I'm available tonite with hot young busty blondes VICKY and OLIVIA ๐ŸŒŸ Duos and trios are on the menu ๐ŸŒŸ MOTEL IN SOUTH ETOBICOKE โ˜Ž๏ธ 437-290-2190
  32. lotushubspa:
    Hi, ๐Ÿ’‹Louts๐Ÿ’‹ recommends the best female masseuses to customers today, Lisa๐Ÿ’‹ from China, Mary๐Ÿ’‹ from Taiwan, Jessica๐Ÿ’‹ from South Korea, living at 10737 Yonge St Unit13. Please contact 9052375885โ˜Ž๏ธ or SMS 4163565876, ๐Ÿ’‹Thank you
  33. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Mimi๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A captivating and alluring new massage girl from Korea whose elegance and c
  34. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Mia deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in
  35. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa(9421Jane st unit127)โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6A4H8.ensuit rain shower available L6A4H8(,open holiday) ๐Ÿ’„Sunny is very big boost sexy girl ,she can provide very good massage with sensual touch, nice body slide,๐Ÿ’„ Dainty and short cute girl winne ,very pretty.open maid,she do very good deep tissue popular girl๐Ÿ’„new girl Ina very beautiful girl give you warm and comfortable time must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿง‘โ€๐ŸŽ„
  36. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietna
  37. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธLuLu๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธNinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  38. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 5 girls are working today, young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks open mind and sweet Tina with curve body, young cute Vivian 22โ€™s and GFE Ella, sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  39. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bella ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs coco ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  40. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Yuki ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  41. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: BELLA (10-9): is a young & pretty Taiwanese girl, busty D Cup, curvy body,deep bbbj, cfk, dim, finger in p*ssy, extra services, excellent service. HOLLY (11am-9pm) : is a young, pretty, slim & busty yoga instructor from Vietnam, standing 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  42. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐ŸซฆSasa & Nayla are in today ๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„ Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ’„Sasa is a Young Pretty Chinese Girl ๐Ÿ‘ Nayla is a Tall, Young, Beautiful & Curvy Spanish Girl. ๐Ÿ’„All Our Girls Provide Lots of E X T R A S & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open from 8am til Late Everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  43. HollywoodSpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: CINDY, JENNY & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. CINDY is a slim & pretty lady with long dark hair and a pleasing personality. JENNY is slim, attractive
  44. Annie Spa:
    Our famous sexy superstar Suki is working today Thursday December 26th with gorgeous young girls Cici and Coco๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜ Suki only works on Thursdays and her schedule gets booked up very quickly so book your appointments well in advanceโ€ฆitโ€™s always a very special and busy day at Annie Spa when Suki is working ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜โค๏ธ๐Ÿฅฐ Call Annie Spa and ask for May to book appointments ๐Ÿ’ฏโค๏ธ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป 1001 Sandhurst Circle Unit #7 Finch and McCowan Area 437-818-8896 416-291-8879
  45. ASPA:
    ๐—ง๐—›๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Fox, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ FOX is 26 years old with 34Cโ€™s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience.
  46. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  47. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMAA, LUCY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart
  48. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga kiki and Lala work
  49. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super sexy girl Mia big boobs 3Dhas therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in
  50. See You Health Center:
    Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl Naturally very pretty face, Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl 5โ€™ 2โ€, 100 lbs black Hairโ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK Https://seeyouspa.com โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
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