client with SO much systemic inflammation!

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I have an interesting client...

28-yo female has been seeing me monthly for the past 5-6 mos or so. She has fibromyalgia, lupus, and tse tse chondritis (which is an inflammation of the rib heads or something), which is manifesting in both front and possibly back, and now she's scheduled to see a rheumatoid arthritis specialist to see if she possibly has that as well. She's been on steroids before, hasn't really helped much except that she has gained a good bit of weight and since she's bigger boned in the first place, though she carries it well, she's understandably self-conscious about it.

The tse tse chondritis has been her chief complaint over the past couple of months (the fibro and the lupus have stabilized--not great, but have taken a back seat to the tse tse). She feels it as a big noticeable knot in the area of her right pec, near the right edge of the sternum. She ALSO feels something now in her left l mid-to-lower thoracic area, close to the spine. It's not tied to any particular action or position. In fact, it shows up only when she has been asleep for 4-6 hours or longer. She's fine when she goes to bed and then about 4 hours later it starts in and it often wakes her up in the middle of the night. It takes most of the morning before she feels normal again. She sleeps on her side (either one--she often switches throughout the night). No type of stretching or exercise thus far has helped or examassageplanetated it.

We did some biofeedback (with my electronic machine, the one that's so good for inflammation) today, just some spot treatment on those 2 areas, so I'm going to email/call her tomorrow to see if that helped. In the past, I've done hot stone on her, which we don't do anymore, because she said the manual massage was better for her, which was cool.

Right now she just comes mainly for relaxation, because other than the biofeedback, that's all I can currently think of to do. (I have about 250 hrs of St. John-based NMT, but we didn't really go over exactly what to do for stuff like fibromyalgia, and I hadn't even HEARD of Tse Tse Chondritis before!) But I'd like to help her more than JUST relaxation, if I can, so I guess I'm just trying to see if y'all have any ideas or pointers I may have missed or additional suggestions or whatnot. :) (Her common denominator is that all of these ailments are inflammatory in nature, and that's screaming something to me but I'm not sure what. I think that somehow I CAN help, but I just can't put my finger on it yet.)

Thanks in advance! :)
Hugs,
~Jyoti
 


The tse tse chondritis diagnosis is very interesting! I had never heard of it, so googled it - has she been bitten by the African tsetse fly?? If so, and that has caused that specific inflamation, I'd suspect that is the source of all the inflamation. It sounds like this is more of a heart condition that causes the inflamation of the cartilage at the rib heads.

I think I'd ask her to get a second opinion. If it is simply costal chondritis, I wouldn't be so concerned. Then there is no heart involvement.

As far as massage, I think I would specifically work the surrounding muscle tissue - the intercostals, pecs, serratus and obliques especially. If they are hypertonic and pulling on the ribs, they could contribute to the inflamation and pain. Otherwise, it's inflamation - the doctor should have told the ct. to RICE it.
 


:2cents: from up north...
My wife suffers from Fibromyalgia, and for her the solution was the following... She went vegetarian, and started taking Magnesium & Malic Acid (18 caps/day if I remember), and started doing yoga. The first two were by doctor script; the last was on his advice (yes this advice was from a traditionally trained MD). This took about a year to clear most of the symptoms. She is now mostly free, with only minor flair-ups. For her I do head to toe relaxation focused work twice/month, and Reflexology every 2nd or 3rd evening before bed. When she does have a flair-up, Reflexology seems to be the trick. She now teaches yoga (5 classes/week) and doesn't have to take the Mag./Malic.
I limited cross fiber work, and did gentle striping with O/I compression work. Working trigger points was done carefully so as not to aggravate the fibro points. Those areas I concentrated on doing only MLD work, and made sure there was good lymph flow proximal to the spot.

Darren
 


I have never heard of 'tse tse chondritis' but I know about costo-chondritis, which is very painful and has similar causes to intercostals myalgia.


renauddv- Thanks for outlining whay has helped your wife. I also have seen such protocols helping those with fibromyalgia with a few variations. (MSM and vitamin C have also been really helpful in my experience in addition to a vegan/vegetarian diet and regular yoga/water exercise and massage).
 
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    Suko spa every day have 7 different style masseuse please call 905-597-8880 ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉs working here
  42. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒwe have 4young beautiful girls working everyday ,RMT available Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…,service queen Jessica ,she is very friendly nice girl,deep tissue massage and nice body slide๐Ÿ…,short Q girl Lucy is very good looking,she got a lot experience very popular,big big boob sex Joey really beautiful face open maid,everything she can do๐Ÿ”ฅmust try
  43. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY (11:30am โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. BEBE : is a nice young Korean girl with a natural super busty DD Cup, petite
  44. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Mia๐Ÿ˜ beautiful young Singapore girl. Mia has a very sexy body, and beautiful busty boobs and golden blonde hair. She can give a very good teasing and relaxing massage with a sensual great playful HAPPY service. So very sexy beauti
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMILY, KIKI & CINDY. EMILY is a VERY tiny petite SPINNER superstar of the highest quality. Emily has a pretty face, natural A Cups, slim waist, and a lovely spinner bottom, topped off with the very best of services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body.
  47. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Sophia ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  48. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Sasa ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julie ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, TIFFANY & TINA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little 33โ€ booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey
  50. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 11 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MALIYA, MONIKA, NINA, SUMMER, ASHA, PREETI, SARA, ANAYA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
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