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We’ve known for a long time that showing pride in white heritage is not acceptable in society. Many whites keep their opinions to themselves – not to follow the bogus PC guidelines, but to save the hassle that comes along with it. It’s a shame, because we have a lot to be proud of.

It seems that other groups are not only allowed to show their pride without fear of backlash, but are encouraged to do so. My co-worker has a variety of shirts with logos that, quite fancily, show his gay pride. Apparently these are acceptable dress for the office, and the boss always comments how she is “so proud” that he has the “courage” to wear them.

How about “It’s a Black Thing, You Wouldn’t Understand” on t-shirts in the 90’s? Images of Malcolm X , the “black power” fist, or “Black is Beautiful”. And Che Guevara on everything from shirts to pocketbooks – sported by people that know nothing about him.

Now, you know as well as I do, if someone walked into their office wearing a shirt that said “White is Beautiful”, or, “It’s a White Thing… You Wouldn’t Understand” all hell would break loose – lawyers would be called, charges of hate crime charges would be filed, and the person wearing the shirt would be out of a job (and probably blacklisted) before they knew it. And never mind what would happen if the shirt had a picture of someone who fought for white rights…

Pride is not a sin – it’s not a feeling of supremacy or hate, and it is most certainly not a bad thing. If people of other races and sexual preference are hailed as “courageous” for displaying their pride, we should be able to express our pride without being labeled “racist”.
 
You saying it's not a "bad thing" is the best case anyone could make for it being a bad thing.

Racial pride is bullshit, no matter which race is participating in it (black, white, etc). Pride needs to be fostered through content of character, not color of skin - there's no in-between, no inclusiveness. Race is a social construct, nothing more.

You take pride in your white skin because your content of character is equal to that of a buck-toothed horse on Hee Haw. Nobody with a good character has to make dozens of alts just to speak their mind.
 
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I have to agree with the OP and oddball stated very well why if one does express pride in who they are (and they're white) then it is frowned upon. I would take this one step further and say that it isn't only race related, it is gender related too. A perfect example is "I am woman hear me roar" and when a woman chooses not to "settle" she is applauded but when a men refuses to "settle" he is typically labelled as "too picky".

Back to "white pride" for a second, I find it SO hypocritical that to express pride in your race, and there have been those who have perverted it, is no different than those who pervert pride in "colour". You know, those who scream "racism" when they didn't get a job not because of their skin tone, but because they weren't qualified.

Anyhow, I'm proud of Dr Martin Luther Kind, Desmond Tutu, Dred Scott, Jonas Salk, and all the rest. Funny, I can't think of too many famous or significant white people yet I can recall many of "colour"...hmmmmmmm interesting....
 
I recall back in the mid-seventies, here in Buffalo, a white power book store opened up.
Even back then I did not support their cause but I was shock when the black power people said this is wrong.

Here you had one bigoted group complaining about a new group of bigots.

I found it amusing.
 
I think it all depends on what the "white power" bookstore was selling. Was it the typical white power propaganda or was it just pro white?

But you have a point, black power complaining about white power......
 
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Was indeed a kkk store
needless to say it was not open long
 
My position is that pride comes from accomplishment. Are you proud of your height? Your hair color? Why? You didn't do anything for them (okay, maybe you dyed your hair), they are just a consequence of your birth. Same as skin color.

DO something, and you can be proud of that.

Being proud of something that took no effort, well, to me it is like being proud of being on welfare.

Unless you can prove you chose your parents, being proud of your skin color is ridiculous. As would being ashamed of it. It just IS, it does not represent an accomplishment or a failure.
 
After centuries of being seen as a lesser person, it's a good idea to learn to take pride in being who you are.
This applies to blacks, gays, women, the Jewish, Aboriginals, immigrants - whatever.

For white men to take on pride for being white? Doesn't fit right to me, they weren't discriminated against or treated as lesser people as a group.
They are making a statement that mocks other groups for taking pride in their being, or they are white supremacists.
 
wtf are you talking about willis? Are you saying that the only valid reason someone can be proud of who they are is if they were at some point, discriminated against?

That's like saying leonardo Da Vinci can't be proud of the mona lisa because he painted The Last Supper......

Oh, and I hate to break it to you, but just about every race discriminates against other races and I have been discriminated against because I wasn't born in greece. So I guess I can be proud of being white and Canadian then (according to your rules anyways).

I wonder: do these rules apply to citizenship too? ie: I'm proud to be Canadian but by your rules, since we've never really been poor, or downtrodden, or discriminated against, I really can't be proud?
 
I didn't mean you couldn't be proud of yourself as an individual, I meant being proud of your group.
Individuals don't live for centuries.
 
I'm proud of my group: Canadians. But according to your rules, I shouldn't be because IYO we've never been discriminated against...

Dude, your criteria doesn't really apply.

BTW: honestly, do you think that africans discriminated against whites when they first arrived?

Here's a story for you (don't I always have one? lol):

I was working in Atlanta years ago and I wanted to buy a new laptop. So I looked up Best Buy on the map and off I went. I finally arrived and went into the store. As soon as I entered, a clerk started following me. I was at the laptops, checking them out, looked at cases etc when the clerk approached me: can I help you? I said "I'm just checking these out, my company is thinking about buying me one".

He said: You're not from around here are you?
No, I'm from Canada.
He said: No offence, but I think you should leave, I'll walk you to your car.
What?
It really isn't safe for you around here....
WHat?
I looked around and I was the only white face.

He actually didn't walk me to my car, but to the door, and stood and watched to make sure I made it. I was on the phone with my boss and looked around and I was the only white face in the whole plaza.

When I mentioned this to the people I was working with (locals) they said "you went where? Hell, we don't even go there....".
 
If that were the case, I'd move. Those in the parking lot certainly didn't experience that every day of their life. You see, they were the discriminators, not those discriminated against.
 
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