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For those of you who might be newer at this hobby... some tips:

1. With many massage therapists, they may not do any or even hint of any extra services your first visit. They are cautious and want to know you are not insane or a moron before agreeing to anything. You may have to go twice or a third time before you will get what you want. Not saying always but this is true for many.

2. If they have a sheet or towel on the massage table for you to put over you, don't. Just set it elsewhere and get on naked and see what happens. If they don't put one on you, it may be a good sign.

3. If all you do is wait for them to suggest something extra, you will be unhappy often. Best to ask for what you want in a civilized way. For example: Don't say will be jerk me off. Say something like, will you make me happy before I go? If you want a lot of teasing, tell them at the beginning. I just say I like a very sensual light touch massage and teasing.

4. Not all will agree with me, and I also recognize that for many money is tight, but if you are not willing to tip well, you may not get great service. I have had the best experiences with therapists when they knew what I was willing to tip. I think a 20 dollar tip is way too low, if not insulting. Most think 40 is good and I am sure you can get a HE for that. I tend to tip more and let her know before hand and more times than not the services are better.

5. Be clean when you go. It's a no brainer. But you would be suprised at how often a girl tells me about some "guy" who showed up stinking of sweat or whatever.

6. Be a gentleman.

Anyway just trying to be helpful, not start a debate.
 
Thank you Mistermister! I agree let's not debate but add to/clarify. #6 be a gentleman- what about touching? Just assume that you can grab her butt or ask or what?
 
I usually ask and have not been refused, unless it's strictly therapeutic. I think they appreciate that you ask first.
 
OK- So how about tipping? Do you tip up front so they know you mean business or do you give a good tip for so-so service in hopes that on your next visit they remember you and treat you better? How/when do you discuss what you want and how much you're willing to tip?
 
For those of you who might be newer at this hobby... some tips:

1. With many massage therapists, they may not do any or even hint of any extra services your first visit. They are cautious and want to know you are not insane or a moron before agreeing to anything. You may have to go twice or a third time before you will get what you want. Not saying always but this is true for many.

2. If they have a sheet or towel on the massage table for you to put over you, don't. Just set it elsewhere and get on naked and see what happens. If they don't put one on you, it may be a good sign.

3. If all you do is wait for them to suggest something extra, you will be unhappy often. Best to ask for what you want in a civilized way. For example: Don't say will be jerk me off. Say something like, will you make me happy before I go? If you want a lot of teasing, tell them at the beginning. I just say I like a very sensual light touch massage and teasing.

4. Not all will agree with me, and I also recognize that for many money is tight, but if you are not willing to tip well, you may not get great service. I have had the best experiences with therapists when they knew what I was willing to tip. I think a 20 dollar tip is way too low, if not insulting. Most think 40 is good and I am sure you can get a HE for that. I tend to tip more and let her know before hand and more times than not the services are better.

5. Be clean when you go. It's a no brainer. But you would be suprised at how often a girl tells me about some "guy" who showed up stinking of sweat or whatever.

6. Be a gentleman.

Anyway just trying to be helpful, not start a debate.
Respond to #1. I will generally respond "yes" when they ask if I've seen them before even if I haven't. Only once that an Asian I went to visit didn't end up giving me extras on the first visit. It was the one from 1st massage in Calgary trail. She has a nice bod on her but she could offer extras but just never went after the first visit.

#2 this is a must, to screen prospective servers I will ask/txt if they are comfortable with me being undraped. Only twice that I didn't cover myself and nothing happened. Once It was with a therapist that never wrote receipts even when she said she would she is no longer massaging either. Second is with the woman in clarieview that offers sensual massage. But I never used rule #3 in that situation. So maybe I'll giver her another chance...

These are pretty good starting rules/advice
 
Regarding Rule#2, when it is a towel, I unfold it and place it down on the table as a second layer and then lay myself on it, relax and wait for the masseuse to enter :). And for the sake of one's own comfort, have mr. johnson laid out pointing south, so that the therapist can visually be in touch with the pulse of things...
 
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Respond to #1. I will generally respond "yes" when they ask if I've seen them before even if I haven't. Only once that an Asian I went to visit didn't end up giving me extras on the first visit. It was the one from 1st massage in Calgary trail. She has a nice bod on her but she could offer extras but just never went after the first visit.

#2 this is a must, to screen prospective servers I will ask/txt if they are comfortable with me being undraped. Only twice that I didn't cover myself and nothing happened. Once It was with a therapist that never wrote receipts even when she said she would she is no longer massaging either. Second is with the woman in clarieview that offers sensual massage. But I never used rule #3 in that situation. So maybe I'll giver her another chance...

These are pretty good starting rules/advice

Hey guyincognito, Who did you see at massage 1st on Calgary Trail? And how do you know they do extra? Does anyone else know about this spot. I went once and saw the owner, Tam and it all seemed legit. I didn't think they would there.

Thanks for all the tips everyone.
 
Thank you Mistermister! I agree let's not debate but add to/clarify. #6 be a gentleman- what about touching? Just assume that you can grab her butt or ask or what?

I start by sliding my hand on their lower leg while I am face down and just caress it softly. If they dont want to be touched you will know it then. Then I just keep working my way up and see what's what.
 
OK- So how about tipping? Do you tip up front so they know you mean business or do you give a good tip for so-so service in hopes that on your next visit they remember you and treat you better? How/when do you discuss what you want and how much you're willing to tip?

Depends on the woman. Some dont discuss tips at all but most do. I tend to tip 60 which I know is higher but I want her to know I tip well because most likely I will want more the second time than the first time.
 
Depends on the woman. Some dont discuss tips at all but most do. I tend to tip 60 which I know is higher but I want her to know I tip well because most likely I will want more the second time than the first time.

Hey guy, has anyone tried Wei Wei on Whyte Ave?
 
I start by sliding my hand on their lower leg while I am face down and just caress it softly. If they dont want to be touched you will know it then. Then I just keep working my way up and see what's what.
Based on long term experience, this approach mentioned by MisterMister has worked most effectively on masseuses who are in their 30's, sometimes in 40's - and has led to some longer running 'reciprocal relationships' where they look forward to receiving the fingering fun as much as the tip itself. It doesn't happen often, but the rare finds based on chemistry are most enjoyable. It is this aspect of mutual pleasure that a true massage hobbyist seeks out as opposed to simply having someone yank your tool for a tip.

Not as effective with inexperienced young masseuses who are just looking for quick $$$$ and have not recognized other personal benefits of the trade yet.
 
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Hey guy, has anyone tried Wei Wei on Whyte Ave?
Used to see her a lot a few years ago .....She is a pleasant woman ....older now and likely tired ....She will give U a good rub ...just ask her if she will help u out with a HE
 
Used to see her a lot a few years ago .....She is a pleasant woman ....older now and likely tired ....She will give U a good rub ...just ask her if she will help u out with a HE

Thanks Jammer
 
I tend to do the opposite of one step. If I know they are open for HE from this site, I go covered so they have to be the aggressor and will try to charge less.

On another note I agree it is YMMV. When I started this hobby I went ubdraped with Betty. On the flip she looked at it a lot, I was really needing a HE and she didn't offer at all. So I had to finish when she was out of the room hahaha
 
Smart strategy GuyHere. Need more people like us to actually try and bring rates down across the board. Too much dumb money floating around to see it anytime soon.
 
For those of you who might be newer at this hobby... some tips:

1. With many massage therapists, they may not do any or even hint of any extra services your first visit. They are cautious and want to know you are not insane or a moron before agreeing to anything. You may have to go twice or a third time before you will get what you want. Not saying always but this is true for many.

2. If they have a sheet or towel on the massage table for you to put over you, don't. Just set it elsewhere and get on naked and see what happens. If they don't put one on you, it may be a good sign.

3. If all you do is wait for them to suggest something extra, you will be unhappy often. Best to ask for what you want in a civilized way. For example: Don't say will be jerk me off. Say something like, will you make me happy before I go? If you want a lot of teasing, tell them at the beginning. I just say I like a very sensual light touch massage and teasing.

4. Not all will agree with me, and I also recognize that for many money is tight, but if you are not willing to tip well, you may not get great service. I have had the best experiences with therapists when they knew what I was willing to tip. I think a 20 dollar tip is way too low, if not insulting. Most think 40 is good and I am sure you can get a HE for that. I tend to tip more and let her know before hand and more times than not the services are better.

5. Be clean when you go. It's a no brainer. But you would be suprised at how often a girl tells me about some "guy" who showed up stinking of sweat or whatever.

6. Be a gentleman.

Anyway just trying to be helpful, not start a debate.

One of the best advice on this forum. It will be good for everybody to read it and it's really helpful.
Yes, sometimes you can bypass some of the I can call it "rules", if let's say RMTs is so horny, etc...but you need to be able to recognize that moments when you can get more than you will expect and act regarding it. It's just come with experience to see it.
Anyway, all this tips from MisterMister are very good everybody.
 
I always lay on my stomach undraped with my hands on the side of the massage table ....it's a good way for the massage girl to send you a message and vice versa ...even when I'm just getting teased, I'm amazed how many free feels I get...if she moves your hand,... It's going nowhere
 
The smart masseuses, including some good RMT's get to understand the value of repeat customers. These few recognize that by them making direct body contact with our hands, knuckles, forearms, elbows, feet, head (sometimes for a moment, sometimes repeatedly, sometimes more continuously, sometimes grinding right into.. etc), they get a higher percentage of repeat customers which is a hell of a lot better than having to find new clients each and every work day. IMHO, there are only a few rare RMTs whose massage-only skills are so damn good that I am compelled to return over and over just because my body craves their deep-intense massage without any further enticements.

A side bar note on draping. I am not sure when the practice of draping at RMTs began. From RMT massages over many years (in other provinces), I recall just a towel being thrown over the butt and then covering the private parts after turning over. I experienced my first full draping in Alberta about 10 years ago and the masseuse tightened the draping (kind of criss crossed in the groin area) so much after I turned over, I thought that my dick was going to be strangulated from lack of oxygen. Not sure which school taught that technique, but I sure hope they are no longer in business. A simple sheet covering can be ok at times as long as it is a fresh clean sheet.
 
I hate the sheet draping it kills any sense of relaxation for me so if they insist on a sheet I just politely decline and go elsewhere. The only time I make an exception is if the massuese actually climbs on top of the table to get more leverage then I understand the benefit as I really would not like any skin or other bits pinched. :)
 
Reminded me of a painful experience at a resort, draped, masseuse got on table to get leverage, rested her knee on the little guy, omg, did I ever jump. I got an in room massage for free afterwards but now I am always cautious when draped and masseuse on table.
 
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    ❤️‍🔥sexy hot busty💖Indian 🌸Japanese 🌸Korean 🌸girls working at Markham ☎️416-669-8508❤️‍🔥
  39. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, Address:6262 hwy7 unit 1 Vaughan, ☎️:905-851-4888
  40. Adele in Etobicoke:
    New in Toronto 🍅 Young European girl with a great body and face! 🍅 Avail until 9pm 🍅 Queensway and Kipling 🍅 647-553-3202 ☎️
  41. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…🔥 Mimi🔥😘A captivating and alluring new massage girl from Korea whose elegance and c
  42. gold__rose__spa:
    💐🏵at 1536 Warden Avenue 💞💥💋💐Thursday, ♥ 💗💥Michelle💋 for traditional style treatment and quality services., newly toned body, strong, does very firm treatment, pleasant personality 🌹📳647 346-8086📳
  43. wonderspa:
    🌺welcome to wonder spa☎️416-5000-800,L6a4H8,we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday ,RMT available Ensuit shower available 🍅,service queen Sunny,she is very friendly nice girl,deep tissue massage and nice body slide🍅,short Q girl Lucy is very good looking,she got a lot experience ,cupping backwalk deep to relax massage,🔥long hair Lily ,beautiful face nice friendly,open maid,she know what do you want😍
  44. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️( 647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️( 437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥 💯REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯 🔥TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny😘 - An exotic tall and slim Vietna
  45. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at 𝗔𝗟𝗜𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟮𝟵𝟴-𝟬𝟴𝟵𝟴. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY (12pm – 8pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. KITTY (12:30am-9pm) : is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body
  46. Red_Pearl_Spa:
    ❤at 4385 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 5 💋💋Thursday,♥💋 Jenny,💥 average body, tall and pretty, here for therapeutic treatment with amazing finish+ Tammy, full body 💯💥☎️647 352-1588☎️
  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 girls are working today, young cute Vivian 22’s and young fun 30’s with big buttocks 36DD , sexy Coco and sweet young Tina with curve body are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  48. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Fedi,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,🏠address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 🦵🦵👅👅🈵🈵👄👄
  49. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Yuki ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .☎️4379857899🦵🦵👅👅🈵🈵👄👄
  50. HollywoodSpa:
    Thursday at 🎭𝗛𝗢𝗟𝗟𝗬𝗪𝗢𝗢𝗗 𝗦𝗣𝗔🎭, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: CINDY, JENNY & SISI. ☎416-222-5554☎ When you visit 🎭Hollywood Spa🎭, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. CINDY is a slim & pretty lady with long dark hair and a pleasing personality. JENNY is slim, attractive
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