New Guy Has Questions Please

[Pompal 09.]

So...I have been reading several pages in the AMP section about the DO's and Don't. I felt confident enough to take the plunge and picked 7th Heaven as my location of choice. I walked in and rang the bell and "Mama San" answered the door and took me by the hand and let me to a room. First question that she asked me was have you been here before. I thought I would be honest and tell the truth because they could most likely read my body language, and they have been around the block and can spot a newbie in about 2 seconds. I said that I have never been to their establishment or any other one in Dallas. She smiled and said that a girl would be in shortly. I put 80 on the table and waited for someone to come in. Nina walked in and she was very pretty and was nice. She also asked if had been in before and again I said no. She pointed to the back of the door and said that this was a NOT a message place and there was no touching involved. I told her that it was ok and I was just here to relax. She asked if I wanted to stay 1 hour or 30 minutes. I choose 30 minutes. She asked if I wanted a shower and I said yes. I had read on the other posts that this was kinda a first step into things to come. She led me into the shower and handed me a towel and said she would be back later. I took a shower and then dried off and she led me back to the room. I then laid back on the bed with the towel over me. Then said that I needed a new dry towel and then drapped 2 dry towels over me. She then sat on the side of the bed and we just talked the rest of the time. She did not touch me at all. Not even a innocent touch on my arm. So it was pretty much come in, take a shower, lay down on the bed and talk to her. I told her that I wanted to get to know her better and for her to get to know me better. I made it perfectly clear that I respected her and the establishment and I was there to get to know everyone. She did say "I can tell your a nice guy" and I said the same to her. I kinda viewed this session as laying the ground work. Since I'm so new I have nothing to compare this to and was wondering if this was kinda the standard first visit? I did go in expecting nothing so I was not surprised, but a little dissapointed. Total cost was 40. Should I go back in the future and ask for her again? Just wondering if things will be different next time. How long should I wait before going back? I could tell that she was trying to "feel me out" with all the questons. I could see in her eyes that she was unsure about me. I complemented her on how pretty she was and how nice it was to meet her. What can I do on the next trip to get the ball rolling?

BTW.. I did bring $220 just in case. 200 for her and 20 for Mama san. Sorry about the long discription but want to provide you guys with enough detail. I'm 40 with a short haircut and I could see where she would think that I could be LE.

 

[Annie]

Dude

I feel bad for you on that one. I been to Jade and other Amps in Garland and Addison before. Even when I never been to that one before I would mention a big competitor use the information off the massageplanet board and you will be golden. The good part you been there before I would go back choose different girl. When you get on the table just get naked lay there place 140 on the stand and "Enjoy the Ride"

Lorenzo
Amp veteran

 

[mamacita]

PS I need to go back Jade keep hearing about the new lineup

 

[asgodintended]

I did kinda feel like she was grilling me. I did tell her that I went to an AMP in Atlanta about 10 years ago. As luck would have it she said that she just came in from Atlanta about a week ago and wanted to know th name of the place. I just made up a name like Asia Garden in Maretta.

Should I give 7th Heaven another try or just go to another place? Have read many posts about 7th and they have all been generally positive. I guess I could just walk in the door and say "Hey i would like to get laid please and If that can't happen how about someone at least sit on my face"

 

[Zieleni pakowacze zatoki]

Obviously it sounds like she was concerned you might be LE, and was probably waiting for you to initiate something.

If you had started rubbing her leg lightly, or asked her to lie down by you, she might have loosened up a bit.

Somehow they seem to have a sixth sense about all this. It surprises me that even when traveling if I go to a spa, they seem to be comfortable starting things. Not sure how they know it's OK. It is likely partly based on age. Younger guys might make them more suspicious.

So I'm not sure what may have happened in your session. Try again and be a bit more assertive. Not aggressive - just initiate a bit of lite touching, etc.

Welcome to ampworld. Some really nice adventures await you.

Have fun and play safe.

SL

 

[Bubbly]

Thanks SL. At first I thought it might be me. I'm a little overweight and thought that might be turning her off, but I have read that money is the driving factor here. I think I was just trying too hard to be nice. I just didn't want them to throw me out or ban me because i did not follow some unknown protocol.

So does it all start by me initiating the touching or will she start it? She made sure to point at the sign that said "No Massaging" on the back of the door. I'm not worried about being out $40 but want to have a more productive experiance next time.

Thanks to all for the advice.

 

[Alisha M]

If they are comfortable you are not LE, they will initiate things.

The fact she pointed at the No Massage sign was another indication she was worried about LE. They can get in serious trouble with the licensing authorities if they offer a massage without a license.

It might be due to the odd dollar amount you laid out. She may have thought that was all you brought with you. For an hour session, $80 will not get you far. The girl would likely only get 20 of that.

What does Nina look like?

You seem like a nice guy. You will discover the girls appreciate that.

SL

 

[Hi MOM!]

Sorry your first experience didn't turn out the way you had hoped. SL is right on target, LE will not initiate physical contact with the girls. You need to be a bit more hands-on (gentle but touchy) next time.

 

[Pyros]

I will be a little more assertive next time and rub her arm or leg with the back of my hand and wait for a response. I will give Nina another try since she saw me the first time. Is there anything that I can do to assure them that I'm not LE. I guess the police shield tatto on my bicept kinda set her off. heheh just messin.

 

[stephpenk]

I'm not so sure that is correct, Clutch. They will probably claim they did not initiate anything, but we have all probably read the stories .....

But I think it is one factor the girls consider.

SL

 

[Sasha]

I really did not know weather to put 200 on the table of just the 40. She asked if I wanted 30 min or an hour. I kinda stumbled and was unsure and said...since it my first time I will go for 30 minutes. That was prbably a red flag to her.

As for looks what can I say....very pretty and looked asian...but they all do (look asian). She was certainally not a dog and I would have been satisfied with her.

Talking to you guys and looking back on the visit I guess I looked like LE. Very unsure..him hawing around. Not sure who to ask for. Parked right out front one spot over from the front door.

When asking what I wanted she did pickup the 80 and handed me back the 40. She could have taken the other 40 and as nervous as I was I would not said anything to her about it. Bottom line is that I just did not want to rock the boat. I guess that is why there WAS NO ROCKIN.

Learning more and more talking to you vets. Thanks again. This really helps alot. Hehe walked in the door at the house and the wife asked if I got what I wanted. Told her not this time. BTW she is the one that suggested that I go because she can't keep up with me.

 

[Beci]

Place $140.00 American US dollars on the table next time. Allow her to take you to the table shower and lay down on the table. If there is no table say,"table shower?" and go to another room.
Re- read all of the stickies at the top of the forum ALL THE WAY THROUGH. then come back and relate your stories. The stickies tell everything in a step by step fashion that will guide you through the pathway of the Jedi.

 

[Philadelphia]

Young/Old grasshopper still learning.

As far as the table shower there was not one in this room. There was single bed/cot in this room with a shower across the hall. Mabe since I said that I have never been there they put me in that room on purpose. I might have been doomed the second they opened the door and saw the newbie.

As far as reading goes I have read all the sticky posts and most of the reviews. On page 9 now and still reading. Trying to become as educated as possible so I don't completely stand out when I go in next time.

hehe... This is like AMP therapy.

 

[27.lyn]

Yeah, they can certainly lie about who did what and when. I've just had a few girls tell me that LE won't physically touch them. It at least raises a red flag.

 

[beastt.. :P]

Read the sticky that says:

MAMA-SAN: You been here before?

YOU: Why, yes! I saw KIM (most common female Korean name). Or Her last name was Pak (most common Korean last name).
This is like saying you are Jim Smith (most common English name).

Yes, you have ALWAYS been there before.
Yes, you always take the option for the table shower.
No, you NEVER mention what activities you want until you are buck nekkid and possibly semi-erect.

Yes, you lay out the door fee and tip up front on the table.

Let's review...been there before, table shower first, nekkid and tip up frint.

No, you won't get ripped off unless you try to establish a quid pro quo beforehand. That is exactly what LE would do.

 

[jonneyswife1]

Got it.

Hopefully the second trip will be better. Should I go for the same girl or try another one and tell here that I saw Nina last time and see if I get better results?

 

[blonde bitch]

In my opinion, it is very imortant for you to initiate contact. Gentle, but clearly looking for more. Touch legs, butt, titties, etc. You don't have to be aggressive or overpowering. She needs for you to clearly show what you are after. Don't ask for anything sexual or massage. That will get you escorted out. Just ler your hands explore anything you see that you like.

Some screen much more thoroughly than others.

Torito

 

[Yes I]

Sorry about your misfortune. Even for the first time, getting laid at an AMP should be easy as pie. I have no doubt from reading your posts that you just gave them a bad vibe (too nervous? too unassertive? not knowing what to do?) and made them very suspicious. Your timing may also be bad in that I think these places may have their guard up more than usual with the Super Bowl in town and LE supposedly cracking down. Not getting serviced has nothing to do with your weight or looks (except the part about you looking like a cop). So here's my advice:

1. Try somewhere else well reviewed on the board. If they remember you at 7th Heaven they might give you the same treatment because they're still unsure of you.

2. I'd call ahead and ask to see a particular gal. If you're asked if you've seen her before or been there before, I'd just say no but you've heard good things about her from a friend. If asked if you've been to other places in Dallas, I'd tell them that you've seen a few gals over at 7th Heaven and name them.

3. Try to relax as much as possible. I know this is easier said than done when you're new, but really your attitude should be no different than talking to the guy/gal who cuts your hair. Be friendly, relaxed, do not force things. The more relaxed you are the more relaxed they will be.

3. Here's how I'd handle the money. Know the correct amount for what you want. 40 house + 100 tip for half hour. 60 house + 140 tip for the hour. Have the correct amount in pocket. You'll be asked by either the one who greets you at the door or the gal you're to see how long you want to stay. Tell them. They'll ask for the house amount. Take your money out and give them the correct amount. Not knowing the right amount and perhaps being too forward with putting it out before being asked may have made them jumpy.

4. After mamsan led you into the room, I'd get undressed and be waiting for your lady wearing only a towel.

5. Things started going off track badly for you when the gal pointed to the sign and said no touching. That's never happened to me and it's a clear sign that they were very uncomfortable with you. If that happened to me, I think I'd tell her that I was hoping to get a table shower. If that didn't get things going, I guess I'd either say this doesn't seem to be working out and leave. Or, maybe be a little more assertive and say something like I've never had a problem in any of the other AMPs I've been to in receiving a table shower from the gal.

6. If I understand things correctly, you're session really went off script when she took you to a regular shower room. Did I get that right? Did the room she led you to not have a table for you to lay down on? You do not want to take a shower by yourself. You want a table shower where you first lie down on your stomach (wait for her to warm the table by running hot water over it so you don't look like a newbie) and she rubs her soapy hands/loofa all over your back, asks you to flip over, and repeats with the front. Make a little small talk. Ask her how's her day going, how she likes Dallas, whatever. If someone ever took me to room with a shower only and said she'd be back later, I'd look at her quizically and say I was hoping to get a table shower.

7. Once you're back in the room after the table shower, she'll likely ask you to lie down and say she'll be back in a few minutes. This is when I put the tip out somewhere in plain view.

8. When she returns, I'd be expecting her to start a back rub and maybe get naked. If things are not progressing at this point, time to take the initiative and gently caress her leg or thigh. If ever asked what you want, I'd say "everything" with a knowing smile.

Hope that helps.

 

[Alan Y]

I saw so many reviews from 7th so I figured that I would start there. I believe the mistake was on my end and not on the girls end. She was perfectly happy sitting there talking to me, but I had more on my mind. It tough for someone that was brought up to respect women and not be TOO forward, but there is a different set of rules here. You guys have pointed out my mistakes and I thank you VERY much for that. I will give it a few days and try it again. I will post my results when I have them.

 

[Gazoo]

Very nice Shackelton.

By the way are you the one who did all the artic explorations?

SL