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i regularly read and post to a forum where women are trying to conceive or are pregnant etc. i want to learn more and also spread the word of the misinformation (IMO) of reflexology and therapies at this time.

anyway, i just was reading a post by a lady with PCOS (reflex can help, can it not?) and metformin. this woman tried reflex 3 times. 1st time she was told there was a blockage, 2nd time she was told she was ovulating, 3rd time was told perfectly fine, you'll get pregnant soon, no need to come back.

hmmmm i was quite shocked that a reflexologist would say this, after all, is anyone *perfectly fine*? i was surprised that she didnt advise bi monthly or monthly even, to keep the balance (and lend emotional therapy/ support) should conception not happen quite yet...

thoughts?
 
It's not the approach I would use myself Rosie! I don't think anybody can assure anybody else that they will conceive, but wouldn't it be nice if we could? Like you I'd look to treat the person on a regular basis and lend support while they were trying to conceive (I'm doing this at the moment with someone in a similar situation).
 
Hiya
Having worked on a fair few of these types of things (with two of my ladies about ready to drop in the next couple of weeks) I am as honest with them as possible which is paramount in this situation. If everything is feeling as it should then the therapist would in my opinion would be doing a disservice if she didnt report that back but at the same time you could also extol the benefits of reflex and hope that they would continue....the emotional support thing is a tricky one as that is not why we are there and are not qualified in that but more often than not end up becoming shoulders, ears etc so I wouldnt advise anyone comes back for emotional support as that is not my/our forte but would leave it up to the client....

Many people trying to conceive are willing enough to try anything and i feel if everything feels ok in the feet this should be told but offer to carry on balancing treatments to support what she is doing but thats it.

I shall get my coat now..
T
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Women have problems with conceiving not just for physical reasons, but as we know, emotions, stress, etc can all contribute to difficulties. Therefore, just for the relaxation benefits alone reflexology can only continue to help the body prepare for pregnancy and hopefully conceive in the natural way.

Lesley
 
i sort of worded that wrong... what i meant by emotional support/ therapy was the fact that reflexology works on the emotional/ energetic levels, of which i am sure those ttc have much going on.

i also think she should have explained the benefits of continueing re boosting immune system, balancing hormones etc etc... stress of course.

dont get me wrong, i applaud the reflexologist for *turning away* business. but i think she may have been a little misleading with her *prognosis*.
 
I would love to know how that reflexologist could tell all that!! Also, is the client pregnant now?? If so the reflexologist should give a course to us lesser mortals.

I totally agree about the program of treatment. I always stress to my clients that what I'm doing is to help her hormone balance and holistic health, rather than concentrating only on achieving pregnancy, it takes the pressure off them. It takes a while to help the periods regulate.

What is that website Rosie, it sounds really interesting. Could you ask that member how she is now?

Jan
 
hi jan,
no she is not pregnant yet and is desperate to be, hence trying reflex.

the woman had been having beauty treatments for years from this reflexologist and they have a good relationship (i had suggested she try someone else if they hadnt gelled). apparently she also offers reiki. after the 3rd session she said she didn't want to take her money for no reason,she thought the woman was fine, she suggested she try to stop thinking of ttc, and book holiday etc, she actually told her to stop coming on the web site, as it playing on her mind all the time.

she told the reflexologist that she enjoyed the treatment and wanted to keep coming an hour a week and she suggested a facial or something to relax (which is much cheaper than reflex) so she can't help but feel her best interests are being looked after. she's been asked to go back a week or so after her period.
 
oooh goodness Rosie - well I'm appalled ! :-)
I simply cant believe a practitoner of any sorts would come out with something so insensitive to their clients needs. I'm no shrinking violet & often speak as i find - no messing but I dont think any DR, Beauty Therapist, Reiki master, Reflexologist - whatever qualification or any specialist in any field should tell their client/patient what they think the person is feeling over & above as a better guide/gauge than the clients own.
We can offer suggestions & plausible scientific, holistic reasons of whym how etc but to totally ignore a client & her thoughts opinions etc is - in my humble opinion of course - totally outrageous & wholly unprofessional. ie she thought the woman was fine !! hmmn okay but how did the woman feel ?
Plus - to totally ignore what her client said - ie she was actually telling her how she felt - "I enjoy reflexology and would like to come for an hour weekly" To then suggest what she thought would be better & cheaper sounds totally incompetent to me. Surely our best interest is our clients needs ! Perhaps she isnt confident with her application of reflexology & the benefits. Perhaps she believes more in her ability as a beauty therapist or others' ability to help her client - thus not charging ! Perhaps she didnt feel she was worthy.
Maybe her reaction is from lack of confidence, which thus may be fuelling her words.
But hey I am guessing !! with respect for the practitioner after all she must believe what she is doing ----- is right ! But the client obviously doesnt or she wouldnt be requesting second opinions.
I have treated many of my clients for nothing at times - esp if they've been going through hard times but I do believe & know I am worthy of my full price ( & more :-)

Personally i feel that type of full on - telling somebody what when & how isnt helping the client find her own way to heal, resolve etc, being whom she should be, exploring all options & making decisions from her own experiences. To take away the clients responsibility towards their own health isnt good.
Hmmn I'm being totally outspoken Rosie ( as always but I dont think the client has her best interests looked after at all
To tell somebody to stop going to a web site that is full of information & support etc is a laittle harsh. I understand about the hols - i agree isnt a holiday great at anytime any excuse & if poss Id love to just stop & book a holiday as yes a change is as good as a rest !

Bless - keep up the good work Rosie - keep chipping away, we can all learn from education & updating - you'll get through to many but not perhaps all - nevertheless many will beneift from your knowledge & experience.

and breathe .. . .
PS - Hope you are all healthy & happy , enjoying life & all
wonderful offerings.
 
Pre has said it all!!!

Every therapist is there for the benefit of their clients and should NOT refuse to treat them unless there is a very good reason (eg a contra-indication or a threat to the therapist).

Having studied reflexology in relation to pregnancy and labour I can see every reason to continue reflexology through the time of trying to conceive right up to, during and past delivery.
 
thanks for everyone's comments.

i agree totally paul. it seems almost more important during preconception and certainly helpful on many different levels.

pre, yes, i wonder if the reflexologist in question doesnt have the confidence (my views re beauty and add on therpapies are probably no secret!).

trouble is, it doesnt help to dispel the misinformation given to women regarding therapies, reflex, for all pregnancy matters.
 
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    ๐ŸŒบ๐Ÿ”ฅ Wonder spa [9421Jane st unit 127)L6a 4H8,Please โ˜Ž๏ธ4165000-800,Ensuit rain shower now is available ,every day 4 nice girls working๐Ÿ’„Amy is Vietnamese young sex girl,open maid,everything she can do,๐Ÿ’„Mimi is younge sexy girl beautiful face long leg,nice body slide,really popular girl๐Ÿ’„very big boobs Mina,deep tussiue massage and hot stone,back walking and relaxing massage,give you very Comfortable warm time๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  36. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Rose๐ŸŒน - A sexy new addition to our line
  37. HollywoodSpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: MIMI, SISI & TRACY. โ˜Ž๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฐโ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. MIMI is a slim Chinese hottie with a great ass and liberal services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty
  38. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Tiffany, Yumi & Cindy. Tiffany is a very slim, tall, young & beautiful lady. Donโ€™t miss out on this top tier honey. Yumi is a young half Chinese/half Korean very sexy & slim beauty, can do bbbj cim, excellent services... Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups
  39. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Kelly ,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts Ivy, Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: LUCY, YOYO & CINDY. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. YOYO is a very beautiful slim Chinese lady, 165Cms & 116 Lbs with natural D Cups & a VERY sexy figure. She provides the best versatile PSE services. (Shhh, donโ€™t tell anyone: YOYO is a hidden GEM, & total SUPERSTAR!
  42. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Feifei๐Ÿ˜˜Our new Taiwanese beauty Feifei specializes in creating an intimate and deeply relaxing massage experience tailored to your desires. Her soft, skilled hands glide effortlessly, easing tension and awakening your senses with
  43. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ:JENNIFER, LILY & CINDY. JENNIFER is slim and curvy, with long dark hair, land nice services. Lily is a young, extremely sexy Vietnamese beauty, very slender, standing 5โ€™4โ€ with perky C Cups, slim waist, amazing ass, & model walk. Lily is a real beauty who can make you very satisfied.
  44. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : BEBE (10am-9pm) : is a nice young Korean girl with a natural super busty DD Cup, petite small body, open minded bbby cim cof rim, always cooperative, excellent services. BELLA (10am-9pm) : is a young & pretty Taiwanese girl, busty D Cup, curvy body, deep bbbj
  45. JerryWangWw:
    Suko spa every day have 7 different masseuse working here please call 905-597-8880 ๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–
  46. Eva Vivian - Elegant Asian Sweetheart:
    ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜Iโ€™m Eva Vivian, your independent open minded slim sexy massage girl available working in Scarborough and North York. Available to provide you massage and extra services at Hawaii Health Spa in Scarborough and Greenway Spa in North York๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜ RED ROSE HEALTH SPA: โœ…Red Rose Health Spa @ 2 Invergordon Avenue in Scarboroughโœ… โ˜Ž๏ธ416-292-1268โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿ’ฏVivian available every Sunday and Monday from 10am to 9pm๐Ÿ’ฏ โ˜Ž๏ธCall Red Rose Health Spa 416-292-1268 to book appointment with Vivianโ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿ’‹Every m
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, HELLEN & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. HELLEN is a young & friendly lady with nice boobs and a slim body. She can do slide & daty & perform all kinds of services. LUCY is a cute young Viet
  48. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Slim Sexy Chinese Coco & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Jasmine
  49. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธYoyo๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธBree Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  50. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธIvy๐ŸŒธKimCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
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