pseudoscience or not?

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Hi all,
Just wondering if Reflexology is still considered as a pseudoscience or if indeed there is any 'scientific' proof to it? Where is the defining line between pseudoscience and science. As a reflexologist I see the proof all the time.
I ask this as I have a family member who is a biochemist and down cries all alternative/complimentary therapies at every given chance. Mind you he has been known ot use homepathic remedies on his children for teething. Although he denies they are homeeopathic and says they are different as they are regulated and tested and cna be bolught in a pharmacy. lol

So back to the question? Where is the documented proof if any?
 
..Heyyyyyyy... Jungdreamer;
... It's just one o' those things you put down to experience

soz



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oooh waaah waaah oooh waaah waaah oooh!

(i'm sorry too - he made me do it!)

ask him why the pharmaceuticals company wont sponsor some "scientific" testing...

or

just tell him to push off!
 
Well to be honest I make sure never to get inot conversation with him about it and if I do I just let him waffle on and argue with himself as I believe I have nothing to prove. My great line with him is to the effect that her attends church and is educating his children to believe in God as it feels right for him and he believes in it yet, we have no scientific proof regarding the existance of God.

However, I am interested to know how much scientific research has been carried out.
I am just curious myself and I do believe that it is one on the reason that there is no research inot these areas as it would have a negative result for the pharmacutical companies.
 
Here is a sample of Reflexology studies, links to abstacts:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19740047?dopt=AbstractPlus

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18370580?dopt=AbstractPlus

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18772659?dopt=Abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18489444?dopt=Abstract

HTH
Myarka.
 
Sorry Jungdreamer, I was just being a bit silly - it was a play on the lyrics of a very old song (FYI here's a link-> Sad_Sweet_Dreamer ) and Rosie rather humourously carried it on.

But yes (as Myarka has demonstrated) there's lots and lots of research out there, I know that I found a huge amount of good research when I was compiling my portfolio for my Reflexology qualification (apologies for the childishness), I think though as you get older you get to a point where you just can't be a*sed to argue the issue... innit?


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Apology accepted. I am glad that my confussion to your post has been clarified. I thought I was losing it for a momnet!
 
Im not a Reflexologist but this it what I would say to the Biochemist (with lots sarcastic 'as you knows':

"As you know, for the nervous system to work well it is all about the 'flight or fight' mechanism. Someone with chronic back pain will constantly be in 'fight' mode. As you know, there has never been a drug invented which can switch a person from 'fight' to 'flight' mode which is why drugs dont work and actually do people more harm. Reflexology on the other can, over time, easily switch this mechanism, which is why more and more people get success going to Reflexologists and give up with harming themselves with drugs that Biochemists give them."

You can, if they have bad posture, point out and ask them why they have been standing on the front part of their feet the whole time (for example, they wont know they are doing it- say their feet are too tense causing bad posture)!

I wouldnt bother mentioning as an argument for reflexology:
god,
energy,
chakras
etc.

best arguments are mentioning: nervous system, 'fight or flight', 'cured my bad back' etc.
thats my opinion anyway
 
Excellent Matty, I just might take some of your tips during trh next conversation we have. Tbh, reflexology did go up in his estimation recently when he saw the depth of anatomy and physiology covered in the Diploma.

Shallow, I know!

I have mentioned 'blockages of energy' and 'detoxifying' before, but wont again. I can still hear him laugh.

Ah well maybe some day I will give him a treatment and change his mind forever.
 
In contradiction to the glowing reports on this board the refs provided by Myarka (thanks M) do not show Reflexology to be a particularly effective treatment. There may be many reasons for this, one being biased educational establishments which rely, for some of their funding at least, on big Pharm company funding.

Jungdreamer, in reply to your Biochemist friend, why not ask him if he knows the meaning of the word iatrogenic.

David
 
I am a practising reflexologist, and I have found reflexology as a massage therapy to be a very effective treatment for stress, anxiety related disorders, poor circulation, pain relief etc.

I think explanations of reflexology that use ideas of "zone theory" or "crystal deposits" are unproven and contradict current knowledge of anatomy. I am not sure if this meets the definition of psuedoscience

"Reflexology" is really a vague concept - different people practice a therapy that they label as "reflexology", but they may have completely different explanations of what they are doing.
 
Essentially it means disease caused by conventional medicine. Look it up in a decent dictionary (ie Chambers or New Oxford) or Google it.

Cheers,

David
 
Fab idea - offer him treatments, I'm sure he'll be amazed by what you can read in his feat.
 
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    SATURDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 416-298-0898 [/color] 3 Top Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: BELLA : is a young & pretty Taiwanese girl, busty D Cup, curvy body, deep bbbj, cfk, dim, finger in p*ssy, extra services, excellent service. CICI (10:30am to 9pm) : is a petite cutie from Vietnam, natural C Cups
  42. HollywoodSpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: COCO & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. COCO is an attractive attendant with nice massage skills & good services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ€™5โ€
  43. lotushubspa:
    Hi, Louts๐Ÿ’‹ recommends the best female masseuse to customers today, Anna๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’ฏ from China Coco๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’ฏ from Taiwan, Tina๐Ÿ’‹ from South Korea, living at 10737 Yonge St Unit13. Please contact 9052375885โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿ’‹ or SMS 4163565876, ๐Ÿ’‹Thank you๐Ÿ’‹
  44. Sunrise Spa:
    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is Coco and Kitty ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Reika, Sera & Cindy. Reika is Japanese, loves to please. Sara has DD cups and a medium build. She can provide an excellent bbbj and top quality massage. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY & NANA. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills Nana is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUCY is a cute young Vietnamese girl, 5โ€™1โ€, 50Kgs, with a full range of services available. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups
  48. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga kik and mia
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 girls are working today, young sexy Yoyo 36DD with curve body open mind and young cute slime Sophia 30โ€™s, sweet GFE Lina and pretty Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple๐Ÿ˜˜ - Brand new girl from Taiwan ju
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