Shoulder Pain - Help!

Mz Black

Member
Joined
Mar 15, 2010
Messages
56
Reaction score
0
Points
6
I don't write very much here but do appreciate all the opinions and discussions. They are very informative.

I do have a problem - my left shoulder. I'd appreciate any help I can get! Whenever I lift something of considerable weight straight up (to the sky) in front of me, or push something from left to right I get this pain that makes me stop. It almost feels like a weakness when it is painful. The pain is in the front of the shoulder right at the joint and seems to be around the biceps tendon insertion area. It affects my massaging. I try to ignore it.

I've had myofacial work done several times. I get relief for about a day. If I wait too long (about 4 weeks) I can feel tightening up to my jaw and into my occiput. It also goes into my rhomboids.

I also had the chiropractor work on it. The last visit he said my pec had some strain on it or the bursa could be inflamed. My teres were definitly hurting. I've iced it and of course only about a day of relief here too.

Anybody have any ideas? I hate to even think of rotator cuff injury and/or surgery!!!!! Thanks up front for any thoughts.
 


I hate to tell you this, but the symptoms you are describing are exactly like mine. Same shoulder even.

I've had 2 surgeries and don't plan on having any more. I'll just live with the pain.

My 2nd MRI showed a partial tear to the rotator cuff (specifically the tendons of supraspinatus and infraspinatus) but when they did the 2nd surgery they couldn't find any tears. So.....who knows?? The diagnosis they give now is something to the effect of chronic excessive inflamation.

According to the doctors the pain should greatly subside or even go away if I quit doing massage. No thanks....I love massage too much to give it up.

What helps: limiting the number of massages I do, ice, ice and more ice, advil, an occassional darvocet, using an tens unit, stretching, MFR specifically myofascial unwinding which I get at least 2xs a month and a cortisone shot once or twice a year.

Thanks to PT and massage, I have functional ROM. As long as I have that, I can deal with the rest.

I certainly wouldn't advise you to rush in to surgery, but perhaps PT and rest would help.

Good luck,
Angie
 


I have had a similar problem and was told that rhomboids are weak and need to be strengthend. Are your shoulders rounding inward? If they are, then pecs need to be stretched. Work along the clavical and the sternum to try to loosen pecs up. Some neck stretches will also help as will some door frame stretches for pecs and upper back. My dr. said that because of the type of work we do we tend to have the head downward and the shoulders forward a lot, which tends to cause this kind of problem. Hope this helps.......
 


I've had myofacial work done several times. I get relief for about a day. If I wait too long (about 4 weeks) I can feel tightening up to my jaw and into my occiput. It also goes into my rhomboids.

You could consider treating it like a real injury. What do you tell clients who are injured. Definitely that it will take more than "several times" to get some healing occuring.

Rest is important. Remember you are human too. *winks*

Consider rolfing if the institute is anywhere near you or a trade can be made. You are in Colorado! Wheeeee!

Get an excellent referral for an acupuncturist. Moxa and needles did my shoulder wonders the last time I blew it out.

If you go the NSAID route, (anti-inflammatories), I have seen MD's script patients for to _x_ - _x_ mg (mg left out at my discretion, d/t "people on the internet" :shock: ) at a rate of 3 - 4 times per day for 2-4 weeks. This said not as a suggestion, but so you know it is sometimes a good month for the anti-inflamms to get working. You'd want to see your orthopedic for an evaluation of course.

BTW, good luck. There are also a few posts with the nice scapular strengthening exercises somewhere on the forums.
 


Thanks everyone. Definitly not the things I wanted to hear because it all confirms what I suspected. :(

Surgery is my last resort. I don't have insurance to randomly go from dr. to dr. let alone a surgery bill. The chiropractor and bodywork has kept us healthy for 25 years now so I'll continue on that path.

I'm going to look into the accupuncture. It may help my husbands old hockey body too -- old injurys, not old husband :) And also those stretches and strenthening exercises.

Thanks again everyone!

PS - Yea for CO - we had snow! The high country is just covered! Too bad ski season doesn't start until Thanksgiving - unless of course a person wants to hike!
 


I have heard of the bicep tendon coming out of the groove. I wonder if this could be it. Also you could try some orthopedic special tests to see if it is bicep tendonitis. Or....you could see a doctor or a kinesiologist that does muscle testing.
 


Thanks all for the great suggestions. I've been icing, resting, MFR & Chiro. Every now and again I get a instant of pain but not near as bad. I'm hoping I'm mending. I'll keep in mind that even tho if feels better it still needs attention.

I do want to go thru with accupunction. I need to call my dr for something else so I'll have her look at my shoulder then.

Thanks sooooo much everyone! You guys/gals are great - always ready to come to someone's aid (guess that's what we are all about!)
 
Shoutbox
  1. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: 🌺welcome to wonder spa☎️416-5000-800,L6a4H8,. 4young beautiful girls working everyday(open long weekend),Ensuit shower available 🍅,new friendly nice girl CiCi,providing oil deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide,back work.more experience ,🍅nice Vietnamese Amy is very good looking,big breasted sweet smile,open maid,everything she can provide,really popular girl,must try🔥
  2. SL East Spa:
    💆‍♀💖Sexy Saturday💖 Ultimate destination for Asian massages🎉 Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakville✨ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea — Cici, Yoyo, Amber, Juliet, GFE Eva,Echo,🆕Julia, Lucy, Akino & Jenny🎁🍁 Ring us 📞647-695-6354 or text us 📱647-578-8169✨ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill 💰Where Eastern charm meets Western comfort - Your Black Friday Bliss is Here!🙌
  3. Spa in Markham:
    ⚜️ Golden Flower Spa (Unionville) 📍 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6, Unionville, ON 📞 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 💋 Hot bodiesskilled handselite service 🔥 Classy, seductive & fully satisfying 📅 Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule 🔗 Booking: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  4. BlueXado Therapy & Spa:
    🐍 BlueXado Spa (Vaughan) 📍 1102 Centre St, Unit 6, Vaughan, ON 📞 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 💦 Clothes offmind off – just relax 🌀 Young beauties, deep care, unique vibe 📅 Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule 🔗 Booking: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  5. Pink Flower Spa:
    🦩 Pink Flower Spa (Scarborough) 📍 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit A8, Scarborough, ON 📞 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 💗 Sweet, gentle, feminine touch you'll love 🌸 Soft hands, beautiful smiles, total care 📅 Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule 🔗 Booking: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  6. lemon_tree:
    💝💯💥a discreet entrance to 4155 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 201❣Saturday, ❤💯Tina / 💋Gracie💕💋 average height and slim build, friendly and sexy, long dark hair, nice treatment, over the top service. 💞 📞 647 348-2899📞
  7. Nu spring spa888:
    💖💖💖sexy hot busty Singapore 🌹 Indian 🌹🌹korean girls🌹🌹working 💗💗at markham ☎️416-669-8508❤️❤️❤️
  8. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    ✨Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! ✅ Click Here Today🌸Candy🌸Melissa🌸Xuka🌸Amber🌸Monika Call us ☎ 905 - 265 - 2158☎️ Your ultimate service awaits! ✨
  9. EMSpa_schedule:
    🔥Ready for a fantastic time?🔥 Today (Saturday), our amazing attendants are Vicky 🥳, Lucy 😘, Ivy 🤗, Opal 🤗 and Sophie 😍. Call us at ☎️ (905) 479-6668 ☎️ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  10. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at 💋535 Evans Ave today 💕💕💕☎️☎️416-531-6969☎️☎️
  11. Withme_Spa:
    💕💥4386 Sheppard Avenue east 💯💞💘💋Saturday, 💞💋 Apple, tall and sexy body, C's, very pretty and, friendly, firm relaxation treatment and great release ❣ Nicole, 💖avg height and slim sexy, nice personality, great treatment 💕 Fifi,💋💋 small girl; but well stacked, newly trained, wants to please you 😄  Jessica, average height, curvy build, very pretty, great treatment options. 💖💋🔋416 297-7488🔋
  12. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : ❤️❤️ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , 😍😍Porn Service 🩷🩷Bella 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and 🍑🍑ASS, 💋💋Mimi 24, Asian mixed White , very open-Minded , 😈bbbj , DFk 🔥Duo 🔥,☎️ 6475318288
  13. Soul Relax Spa:
    ✨ Looking for a relaxing escape? ✅ Click Here Meet🌸Vivian🌸Valentina🌸AnnaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now ☎ 289 - 298 - 5662☎️ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! ✨
  14. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹 Three girls every day 🔥🔥🔥 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke ☎️ 416-817-3366 👍 New❗️New girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty😋 open service 😜😜 Sexy girl Suki deep massage 😘😘😘😘 Hot and sexy body very provocative service 😍😍😍😍❤️ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  15. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 AMMU, JANVI, MONIKA, SASHA, JOEY, BELA, MIMI, SALMA 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  16. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Sara, Tracy & Cindy. Sara is young & slim with nice C Cups, trim waist, sexy bum and long hair. She is vary friendly uses her assets well. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5’1” and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage & services.
  17. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️: AMY & MAGGIE. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Don’t miss out on her special skills! Maggie is sweet, slim and very talented. 🌴😎🌅HOLIDAY SPA🌅😎🌴 3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4 (Kennedy Rd & Steeles Ave E)
  18. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at ❤️💙 💜⎝𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔⎠💖💗💘: CHRISTINA, LUNA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs
  19. wilson holistic centre:
    💕💕Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave 💕💕☎️☎️416-840-0071❤️❤️
  20. wonderspa:
    🌺welcome to wonder spa☎️416-5000-800,L6a4H8,. 4young beautiful girls working everyday(open long weekend),Ensuit shower available 🍅,new friendly nice girl CiCi,providing oil deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide,back work.more experience ,🍅nice Vietnamese Amy is very good looking,big breasted sweet smile,open maid,everything she can provide,really popular girl,must try🔥
  21. Red_Pearl_Spa:
    ♥️💋4385 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 5❣💋🔺💋🔴Saturday,♥️🌹🔴 Tammy, full body treatment by an amazing attendant. 💥💞 Kelly today for an amazing treatment... 5'5", long light brown hair, at least C's 💋☎️ 647 352-1588☎️
  22. SpringGreen.:
    The weeked is here .New spanish tina💋💋Bunny miya,angel and tina are available today.These busty attractive girls provide a high level of service with a smile. call and text message ask questions thanks 💋💋647-891-0699 call and text quentions thanks 💋💋
  23. gold__rose__spa:
    💐🏵1536 Warden Avenue 💓💞💋Saturday, 💗💘 Sophia,💋 tall .and slim, toned and in shape, nice boobs, very white, smooth skin. customer service oriented. Pretty and friendly 💝❣ Fifi, solid body, strong, very firm treatment, 💐🌹📳 647 346-8086📳
  24. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Michelle 25’s with curve body open mind and young cute Kitty 26’s with curve body open mind, young flirty Yoyo with 36DD curve body open mind 30’s and nice GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  25. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️ (647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️ (416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Judy😘🔥Our new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised
  26. Double_Tree:
    💗4271 Sheppard Avenue east 💞💋💘Saturday, 💞💋 Nina,💓 tall and full build, very experienced touch that will relieve all stress. 💞💋  Xixi, 💌medium height and build and nicely curved. Pretty, dark hair to shoulder. over the top finish+.❣💗 📞 416 293-5071📞
  27. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Mia new Vietnamese sweetheart girl with amazing personality Yuki Sweet Singaporean Girl Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Elena Vietnamese girl Cici Cute Vietnamese Girl ☎️647- 446-0886
  28. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹 Three girls every day 🔥🔥🔥 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke ☎️ 416-817-3366 👍 New❗️New girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty😋 open service 😜😜 Sexy girl Suki deep massage 😘😘😘😘 Hot and sexy body very provocative service 😍😍😍😍❤️ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  29. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness ♥️♥️90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, 🍭🍬ON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: 🌹New Indian Girl, New Girl Lila, RMT Rose and Beautiful Tiffany on duty🌹.
  30. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS ♥️♥️ADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 ♥️♥️(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) ♥️TODAY'S Schedule!♥️ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : Sexy Faye, Magical Mia and Work out🏋🚴💪 Babe Amy! SPECIAL PROMO 30 MINS 2 GIRLS ONLY $70 🌹🌹**TODAY'S PICKS OF THE DAY IS 🍭🍬MIA AND AMY🍬
  31. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have two girls working today. Water and Mia. Water is young, beautiful, sexy and fluent in English. She also knows how to give massages. Mia is tall, plump, especially sexy, and has excellent massage skills. She works hard and has many repeat customers. If you are stressed out at work and exhausted, you might as well make an appointment with them!
  32. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Saturday May 17, 2025, our attendants will be Vicky 🤩, Lucy 💖, Ivy 😍, Opal 🥰 and Sophie ️. Call us at ☎️(905) 479-6668☎️ to book!
  33. wilson holistic centre:
    💕💕Beautiful Korean girl Anna working at 382 Wilson Ave 💕💕☎️☎️416-840-0071❤️❤️
  34. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : 💰💰100 hh all in💰💰 ❤️❤️ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , 😍😍Porn Service 🩷🩷Elena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and 🍑🍑ASS, 💋💋Mimi 24, Asian mixed White , very open-Minded , 😈bbbj , DFk 🔥Duo 🔥,☎️ 6475318288
  35. SugarLoveSpa:
    hi today have ella bobo kelly tifany come baby to enjoy with all service available ... Sugar Love spa☎️☎️ (437) 365-2688📲☎️
  36. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹 Three girls every day 🔥🔥🔥 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke ☎️ 416-817-3366 👍 New❗️New girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty😋 open service 😜😜 Sweet girl Luna deep massage 😘😘😘😘 Hot and sexy body very provocative service 😍😍😍😍❤️ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  37. Nu spring spa888:
    ❤️❤️❤️sexy hot Filipino 🌸Korean 🌸 Singapore girl working at💓💓 Nu spring spa ☎️416-669-8508❤️❤️❤️
  38. SL East Spa:
    💆‍♀💖HAPPY Friday!!!💖 Ultimate destination for Asian massages🎉 Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakville ✨ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea — 🆕36D Flora, Cindy, Cici, Eva, Coco, JPN Yui, Happy, Cindy, Jasmine & Aaliyah — pamper yourself🎁🍁 Ring us 📞647-695-6354 or text us 📱647-578-8169✨ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill 💰Where Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss
  39. wilson holistic centre:
    💕💕Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave 💕💕☎️☎️416-840-0071❤️❤️
  40. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : 💰💰100 hh all in💰💰 ❤️❤️ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , 😍😍Porn Service 🩷🩷Elena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and 🍑🍑ASS, 💋💋Mimi 24, Asian mixed White , very open-Minded , 😈bbbj , DFk 🔥Duo 🔥,☎️ 6475318288
  41. wonderspa:
    🌺welcome to wonder spa☎️416-5000-800,L6a4H8,open10 to10(open holiday),Ensuit shower available 🍅beautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone🍅long hair vietname Amy is very good looking,slim body ,open maid, everything she can provide 🌹beautiful sexy face ,big boob Joey ,amazing touch,,really popular girl ,you can get very comfortable warm time🔥🔥
  42. Bencook:
    We have 6 beautiful girl youngest Students Hellen sky jojo mia Angela yumi please call 647 718 6182
  43. AliceSpa:
    FRIDAY at 𝗔𝗟𝗜𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟮𝟵𝟴-𝟬𝟴𝟵𝟴. 3 ladies waiting for you. Two Very Hot ladies (Qiqi & Summer) have returned to Alice spa today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (10am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. SUGAR (1pm-9pm):
  44. Soul Relax Spa:
    ✨ Looking for a relaxing escape? ✅ Click Here Meet🌸Kim🌸Tina🌸SamiCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now ☎ 289 - 298 - 5662☎️ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! ✨
  45. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls :💋💋 New girl Hitti very young💋💋Lisa- Tanned Spanish beauty with large melons and a fun booty too minica- exotic goddess with a gymnasts body and corresponding flexibility Jennifer- Exotic beauty with... Call and text 647 891 0699 ask questions Thanks💋💋
  46. Spa in Markham:
  47. BlueXado Therapy & Spa:
  48. Pink Flower Spa:
  49. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️( 647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️( 437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥 💯REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯 🔥💋Limited Time Special Promotion🔥💋 ✅💦30 Minutes Nude Mass
  50. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹 Three girls every day 🔥🔥🔥 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke ☎️ 416-817-3366 👍 New❗️New girl Angela ,so young Petite and pretty😋 open service 😜😜 Sweet girl Luna deep massage 😘😘😘😘 Hot and sexy body very provocative service 😍😍😍😍❤️ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
Back
Top