Sports Massage V Sports Therapy

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Ok, before we start this is not a jab at sports massage practitioners, this is observations over the last few years, and complaints I have heard from many of my colleagues.

Sports Massage and Sports Therapy are two distinctly different professions, but something we sports therapists find extremely annoying is sports massage practitioners that call themselves sports therapists.

Colleagues are reporting that some SMP's are advertising as ST's, and when they get clients in for problems that ST's treat everyday, they are telling them they cant treat them, and they should go and see a physio! This is really doing the reputation of sports therapists down, and I shall be contacting all the Sports Massage professional associations to see if they will write into their codes of conduct that SMPs do NOT call themselves ST's.

As I said at the start of this posting im not knocking sports massage as a profession. In my opinion everyone should have a sports massage at least once a month to keep themselves in good condition.

A comparison between sports massage and sports therapy:
A sports massage practitioner can perform sports massage with the following benefits (taken from the Sports Massage Association website):Improve circulation & lymphatic flow;
Assist in the removal of metabolic waste;
Sedate or stimulate nerve endings;
Increase or decrease muscle tone;
Increase or decrease muscle length;
Remodel scar tissue when required;
Assist in mental preparation for sporting participation.

A Sports Therapist can offer sports massage plus added remedial massage techniques such as M.E.T.s, Peripheral Joint Mobilisations, Neuromuscular Techniques and Soft Tissue Release for not only the above benefits, but also to treat muscular injuries/dysfunction. ST's are also trained to assess for muscle and joint dysfunction, using specialised techniques, and therefore would not have to refer within their scope of practice. ST's use taping and strapping and the vast majority are trained in the use of ultrasound. Cryotherapy is used to treat acute injuries and Thermal therapy is used to treat chronic problems. Rehabilitation after injury is a large part of an ST's role, as well as fitness testing/instruction and exercise therapy. Finally ST's are trained to give basic nutritonal advice, and in sports psychology techniques such as visualisation and motivation, to aid their clients further.

So you can see that a SMP can perform only a small percentage of what an ST is trained to do.

Our closest relative would be the Sport & Remedial Massage therapist, who would be trained in sports massage and remedial massage techniques, and some of the courses cover such things as remedial exercise and injury assessment.

It is interesting that with the new NICE report on lower back pain and its recommendation that massage be used as a treatment modality, the bulk of the soft tissue work will be performed not just by physios (with additional massage training), chiros and osteos, but by Sports Therapists and Remedial Masseurs, as they are the ones with the specialist training. It has been reported to me that Sports Therapists will be employed by NHS trusts, starting in the Midlands, and hopefully rolling out around the country.

If you do feel that you know of any SMPs advertising their services as an ST, it would be useful if you could check which Professional Association they belong to, so that we can sort this out for the benefit of ST's throughout the country. I dont mean for this to sound like a witchhunt, but why should we be losing business to people that arent trained to do what some of them claim to be able to do!?
 
As a response to the above posting by sportstherapy;

my initial training in this industry was as a sports and remedial massage therapist and I worked part time in a gym environment alongside a physio, after approx 18 months of this work (which I personally found limiting and quite frustrating) I became hungry for more knowledge and decided to embark on a plan to develop my skills from the fitness industry as a sports coach, I completed gym instructor, personal trainer, advanced gym instructing, sports nutrition(to compliment my 12 years as a chef), I then became hooked and completed a course in sports therapy, remedial/ corrective exercise and then myofascial release.
Those additional skills have changed my whole perspective on the way I work and my own personal motivation means I will continue my self development plan.
That said I am extemely respectful of sports massage therapists who provide a valuable service to both elite and recreational athletes, it forms an important component of the whole process from injury to return to sport, equally important is its proactive approach to injury prevention.
However I do believe that my additional skillset means I can provide a complete proactive or reactive approach to any given sporting scenario.

I am aware of a couple of PAs with high levels (approx 3000) of sports therapy members who are seeking the extra recognition for the improved skillset. I personally would like to see the introduction of minimum levels of education to become a sports therapist but do not necessarily think it should be degree level entry, as my vocational experience spanning 25+ years has informed me to an extent that presuing a degree in sports therapy or physiotherapy would not be the best use of my time.

I think there is a lot of mileage in this thread but also feel it might lead to some short term resentment as I have experienced personally from the physiotherapists I have worked with who would have preferred to keep the monopoly they have enjoyed in sports rehab, despite the majority not being trained in massage, or sports specific techniques.

I have said on this forum in the past that I dont have the slightest interest in geriatric, pediatric, stroke, post op or other acute rehabilitation that is the preserve of the NHS Physios, My life is now and has always been involved heavily in sports, either as an athlete myself, presently coaching, treating sports injuries and supporting my kids who are all sporting participants
best regards
BGFL
 
Hi,

May I comment on one point?
BGFL mentioned degree-level training, and I tend to agree with him.
Whilst I'm all for degree exposure for anyone connected with healing, the elevation of initial training to degree-level for Podiatry (my field), Nursing and Physio was, in my opinion, a backward step.

Degree-level training is largely academic. Podiatry, Nursing and Physio are (should be) hands-on vocational professions, as should Sports Therapy and Sports Massage.

A prominent Educator in Podiatry put forward the proposal that a two-year full-time vocational course in Podiatry which could be converted to a degree at the end of that time for those who wished to do so would probably be the best way forward. Although not taken up (as yet) by Podiatry, this model would work well for Sports Therapy and Sports Massage, both of which share core learning.

Going back to the thread topic, its a difficult one.
We're all chasing business these days, and the titles aren't protected. Change and protection can only come from the goodwill of the various professional bodies involved.

David
 
I have had lots of emails of support since I posted this last night, which is very nice, and also lots of examples of sports massage practitioners advertising themselves as sports therapists.

I really do think it does us ALL a dis-service.

An example would be, a client sprains their ankle, and books in to see an 'ST', in actual fact, the therapist has done a sports massage course. There is some inflammation so massage is contra-indicated. The therapist then says, "sorry, I cant treat you, go and see a physio".

A sports therapist would have been able to use cryotherapy, maybe some ultrasound, and then strapped the ankle, ready for a treatment in the sub-acute phase.

Instead, the client looks for a physio, and probably would never think to use a sports therapist again.

This example is a real one, and in my clinic, ive seen this first hand.

My gripe here isnt with training standards (unusually), its about advertising yourself as something you are not.
 
Hello SportsTherapy, Big Gaz. We ask our members to use the title 'Sports Massage Practitioner', I will send a reminder to all members on our next newsletter.

Most of our members have come from schools which teach MET, STR, CTM etc. etc and continue to add to their skills through CPD courses (which are for the most part open to all) and include skills such as postural assessment, strapping and taping and so on. However, we are essentially massage experts and we ask members not to overclaim and to refer clients where appropriate. Personally I refer some of my clients on to physios, osteopaths, personal trainers, Bowen technique experts, chiropractors etc. I have sufficient confidence in the quality of what I offer as a Sports Massage Practitioner, and more importantly so do my clients, that I have no concerns about losing clientele.

My personal opinion is that Sports Therapy needs to raise its profile. One way of doing this is to encourage your members to contact their local Sports Massage Practitioner and explain what you do-you may find a willing audience. Secondly, why not establish contact with the associations which represent Sports Massage Practitioners and explain the value a Sports Therapist can add to the rehab. of a client? Inevitably there will be some overlap, but there will also be a point where Sports Massage and Sports Therapy can work together in the best interests of the client.
 
Hi David, Paul
I agree, good post, communication is the key
BGFL
 
hi Paul,
thanks for your input.

I think the problem is that Sports Therapy has become more mainstream and its profile is high, especially with the public, and that is why some of our more unethical practitioners are trying to get a slice of the pie, but without putting the work in. If they want to work as ST's then they should do the additional modules which would allow them to do so, and this applies to those that advertise remedial massage, but havent done a remedial massage course.

In my clinic I have ST's that do the postural and injury treatments and rehab, and SMP's that do the maintenance and event massage, and they complement each others skills perfectly. When an SMP cannot fix the problem, they refer to the ST, and when the ST has done all the 'fixing' they refer back to the SMP for the maintentance should the client want it, which they usually do.

I have to say that we are seeing more and more people coming for sports massages, so there is definately enough work to go round.
 
Hello Richard, that's good and that's how it should be.

Back to the original post. Misrepresentation in its various forms is a big issue in our industry, one example we are dealing with at the moment is the use of the SMA logo and MSMA letters (both trademarked) by lapsed members and indeed those who may have never been a member. I would urge any users of SMA 'members' to check our national register first. Talking of registers I was inspired to check out my local Sports Therapist, but I can't find a published register on either of the two PAs websites I am aware of. Can you help?
 
historically, STO has always had a public register, but this year we have experimented with the 'find a therapist' service. This way we have been able to monitor the amount of enquiries that we get through the website, instead of the public just contacting the therapist directly. It also a way that we can measure the usefulness of our website. There is a very strong possibility of a brand new national sports therapy register, which if everything goes to plan, should be available before the new year.

On the logo use, we check once a month on therapists using our own logo and letters, and have found in the last 2 months alone, at least 6 individuals using our logo and MSTO letters, when they arent members, and quite possibly not sports therapists. We treat this very seriously, and would in certain cases take legal action (should the therapist not remove all references etc within 7 days). We do follow up checks. Sometimes it is a genuine mistake, with lapsed memberships etc, but other times it is a blatant misrepresentation of themselves.
 
From personal experience when I mention I qualified in sports therapy people automatically assume it involves sports rehab...which I guess is going in a better direction than only using sports massage.
I still get asked 'What is sports therapy?' and people are surprised when you list what it actually involves. This includes physios, chiros etc

As big gaz mentioned there is still alot of resentment amongst physios who tend to label sports therapists as sports massage therapists which gives the impression they only provide sports massage.

Titles of these 2 professions need to be clarified as it can be misleading.
As it harms the reputation sports therapists have been working hard to improve.
 
Hello Carlita, I come back to my point, and it is well meant, that the profession of Sports Therapy needs to raise its profile and the understanding of what Sports Therapists do. Nobody needs to accept this, but you should consider it as a possibility.

Speaking on behalf of my members who only provide sports massage-it's not the worst thing in the world to be confused with a Sports Massage Practitioner. we happen to be very good at what we do. However, I do know what you mean, you have invested in your education and should receive due recognition. Sports Massage has more or less found a working accommodation with physios, osteopaths etc. based on an understanding of what we do and the limitations of what we do. It has taken its time and we still have some detractors, but for the most part it works very well.
 
Hi,

I actually began reading this thread with great interest, as I have to admit.. I had no idea what sports therapy was.

To me there was physio, and massage. I had no idea that sports therapists did so much of what I considered physiotherapy. So I'd say raising awareness with the public is going to be an important step in fixing this. Just to make it clear, I have competed internationally in sport for years, so I was surprised to not know the difference!
 
hi Savid,
I think thats where the confusion lays....everyone thinks that sports therapy and physiotherapy are very similar, and in actual fact, they are very different.

Of all the techniques I listed, the only real comparisons are the exercise therapy, joint assessments, and peripheral joint mobs.

Physios do on average 10 hours training in massage over their 3 year degree, and electrotherapy is being reduced too...in one uni ultrasound had been cut to about 2 hours.

In the past 12 months I have trained in the region of 40 physios, some student, some qualified, including musculo-skeletal trained, I have also trained around 60+ sports massage practitioners, and around 20+ sport & remedial massage therapists...........they have all trained because they see how different sports therapy is from all their professions, and have gained additional skills to enable them to work with a broader range of people.

Even if you look at the NICE Report on lower back pain, it concludes that physios would need extra, specialised training to be able to treat the condition with manual therapy, that training is already given to ST's.

I think we do probably need to look at how we 'market' the profession differently, to show how different we actually are to physio's, SMPs and SRMT's.
 
I think the nail has been hit firmly on the head when it was said that ST's need to 'raise their profile' but also maybe some need to expand their knowledge of SMP's too.

My sports and remedial massage course taught me MET and STR and I was assessed on both of these specifically. We were also taught NMT and how to recognise muscular injuries and dysfunction. I've also taken a CPD course in taping and strapping. I use all my skills (including my first aid!!) regularly as I work with an ice hockey team.

I'm very aware of my 'limitations' as a massage therapist and will refer people on if I'm unable to treat them for whatever reason. I would never treat someone if I had any concerns or doubts about what I was presented with, and would hope that any sports therapists out there would commend such practice rather than look down on them for not being able to treat 'problems an ST does every day' . In the year since I've been qualified in sports and remedial massage, there have only been a small number of times when I have felt I've needed to refer people to someone else and on each of these occasions it has been to a physio and not a sports therapist. The only reason this has been so is because as of yet I have been unable to find a sports therapist in my area, not because there aren't any but because the few that I have contacted haven't responded.

Maybe there are ST's out there that need to be more open minded about collaborating with sports massage therapists and less worried that we're trying to compete with them.

When I first got into massage, I thought that was all I wanted to do and that's why I did the sports and remedial massage diploma and not a sports therapy one. However, as I do now find myself limited in what I'm able to do for my clients and my team, I would very much like to do sports therapy and it is something I'm looking into at the moment.
 
Hi Nefra,
In my previous post I stated my opinion of SMPs providing an important service within the rehabilitation sector and IMO more importantly in the proactive work that is done by SMPs. I too became quickly aware of some limitations in providing massage and a couple of remedial techniques even when combined with my other fitness/ nutrition skilset. I have endured over 25 years of inneffective or minimally effective treatment at the hands of NHS ( a couple of exceptions, were wholly interested in my condition/ rehab, however the majority made me feel like I was actually causing them an incovenience by attending appointments) It was during a treatment by a Sports Therapist that I felt I was making progress for the first time in years and that quite possibly the light at the end of the tunnel meant I did not have to have my arm fused at the shoulder as was the opinion of a number of specialists.
I do respect the services of SMPs and have recently had communication with various PA representatives who for the first time in a few years are willing to sit and discuss the differences in our respective services and to move forwards with the aim of providing high quality proactive and reactive services to the recreational, professional and elite athletes as the opportunity or need arises.
Far from suggesting there should be any kind of hierarchy, monopoly or elitism, as has previously claimed by various unnamed corners of the industry, I am advocating a standardisation of education levels that recognises that we all provide a service that is appropriate to our clients needs, across the boundaries of different sports, all of whom still claim only to be accessible by being members of a certain PA or other.

As several of you have suggested , I accept it is about raising our profile, it is also about making the public aware of the differences of our respective services, I know thsat many of my clients fail to distinguish between STs, SMPs or indeed Physios until they are politely educated, many of whom do not know, or potentially care what METs, STRs or PNF is or does. Their main concern and the reason for their visit is to get treatment for an injury, raise performance levels, or ascertain their level of fitness or true potential.
In a perfect world we would all sit round the same table, at the same time to give our respective views on a progression route for this industry and get involved in implementing the agreed plan.
In the real world, some are content to act as saboteurs and pessimists and actively pursue a course of destructive dialogue regarding the best efforts of the few who do commit their time to pursuit of progress.

Best regards with your ongoing development and if appropriate for you, I would be happy to advise you on this thread or by PM regarding your ongoing training opportunities.
BGFL
 
The point of my original topic, is the fact that there are SMP's out there that are claiming to be ST's, that dont have the skills to treat some of the problems that ST's encounter, and when they refer to others, they are actually doing a great dis-service to ST's. That would be the reason that an ST looks down on an SMP, and not for any other reason. Anyone, regardless of their training/profession should refer if they are presented with problems that are outside their scope of practice.



Again, ST's are trainined in sports massage, and remedial massage, so in actual fact, can do the work of an SMP, but not vice versa.

Going back to my clinic, we have an ST that does not do any full body sports massages. He may use it within a treatment along with other remedial techniques, however, all his clients come to him to have things 'fixed'. He does no rehab, and if a client requires this, he refers to our other ST, who again, does not do full body sports massages, but his preference is rehab.

Because neither of them do full body sports massages (through choice), we employ an SMP, who does them.

Personally, I enjoy the whole range of sports therapy treatments. I like to do full body sports massages, as I find them very therapeutic for myself for some reason, I enjoy the 'nitty gritty' of encountering injuries, working out what the problem is, and then finding the right 'tool' to treat it, and I like doing rehab, because it gives me a chance to sit back and watch my client do all the work (im half joking here). I think I enjoy the full range of ST treatments because I dont work in the clinic full time, as the other guys do, and they, over the years, have decided to 'specialise' in what they enjoy, be it remedial treatments or rehab.

So, again, going back on topic, my gripe isnt with peoples abilities, but, people claiming to be something they arent, to the detriment of people that are

We all have a role to play, and important ones at that, and im passionate about sports massage, remedial massage and sports therapy, they are ALL wonderful therapies!
 
Sorry forgot to add, I dont do full body sports massage now, I get the enquiries but have chosen to specialise in the injury management/rehab rather than massage. I do tho' see several runners who now have regular half body/ leg work on a maintenance basis, now the injuries have been fixed.
BGFL
 
hi guys,
I thought I would chip into this thread, as I came across a persons website, which reminded me of this posting. At first glance at this thread, I thought "oh dear, someone has rattled sportstherapy's cage", but then having read through it, he does have some valid points.

The person who's website I looked at, was advertising as a sport & remedial massage therapist, so I looked at the qualifications listed, and it was an OCR qualification in sports massage, and when i looked at the website of the training provider it was clear that the course was just that...sports massage. Now maybe some people dont think that one word would make much difference, but I do think that it does. Sport & Remedial Massage practitioners can offer additional hands on techniques.

When I originally trained, my main source of income was performing sports massages, which I enjoyed doing. I did find, even with the best will in the world, that I used to get very tired after 3 or 4 massages per day, that combined with the fact that clients were forever asking me to 'fix' their problems, made me look at offering more techniques, and I got into the remedial side more, which I loved doing. Having the chance to work on problems was great....however, I still felt something was missing, and so took the sports therapy course.

I have since specialised, and now work mainly with postural problems, and do very little in the way of 'sports injury' treatments. As far as sports therapy is concerned, I think I still lean towards remedial/soft tissue therapy, as I dont use any ultrasound, or strapping, or hot/cold therapy, and I refer clients on for rehab. I am clinic based though, and know that if I was working with a sports team, then the latter techniques would be essential.

Going back to the point of the posting, those that advertise as SMPs should have a sports massage qualication, those that advertise as SRMPs should have a sports and remedial massage qualification and those that advertise as STs should have a sports therapy qualification, and those that falsely advertise are doing us all out of business.
 
Hi fasciaman,
thanks for that

Yes actually my cage had been rattled, but then, so have lots of other peoples, and yes I have had emails of support, and I have also had emails where people have thought I was having a pop at sports massage practitioners, when in fact, if you read through my postings, im having a pop at those that advertise as sports therapists and remedial therapists, but are not trained in the therapies.

I know that SMA have it written in their codes of conduct that their members should call themselves Sports Massage Practitioners, and ISRM in theirs, that their members do not call themselves Sports Therapists.

We dont have protection of title, which is a shame, so we all need to be looking out for each other.

If there are any SMPs that thought I have been 'putting down' their skills, then im sorry if thats the way it looked, as that was not the intention. At the end of the day, I am involved in sports massage in a big way. I also teach sports massage, so it would be rather silly of me if I did 'put down' the skills wouldnt it.......
 
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    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: BELLA (10-9): is a young & pretty Taiwanese girl, busty D Cup, curvy body,deep bbbj, cfk, dim, finger in p*ssy, extra services, excellent service. HOLLY (11am-9pm) : is a young, pretty, slim & busty yoga instructor from Vietnam, standing 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  15. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐ŸซฆSasa & Nayla are in today ๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„ Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ’„Sasa is a Young Pretty Chinese Girl ๐Ÿ‘ Nayla is a Tall, Young, Beautiful & Curvy Spanish Girl. ๐Ÿ’„All Our Girls Provide Lots of E X T R A S & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open from 8am til Late Everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  16. HollywoodSpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: CINDY, JENNY & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. CINDY is a slim & pretty lady with long dark hair and a pleasing personality. JENNY is slim, attractive
  17. Annie Spa:
    Our famous sexy superstar Suki is working today Thursday December 26th with gorgeous young girls Cici and Coco๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜ Suki only works on Thursdays and her schedule gets booked up very quickly so book your appointments well in advanceโ€ฆitโ€™s always a very special and busy day at Annie Spa when Suki is working ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜โค๏ธ๐Ÿฅฐ Call Annie Spa and ask for May to book appointments ๐Ÿ’ฏโค๏ธ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป 1001 Sandhurst Circle Unit #7 Finch and McCowan Area 437-818-8896 416-291-8879
  18. ASPA:
    ๐—ง๐—›๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Fox, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ FOX is 26 years old with 34Cโ€™s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience.
  19. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  20. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMAA, LUCY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart
  21. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga kiki and Lala work
  22. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super sexy girl Mia big boobs 3Dhas therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in
  23. See You Health Center:
    Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl Naturally very pretty face, Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl 5โ€™ 2โ€, 100 lbs black Hairโ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK Https://seeyouspa.com โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  24. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl She is 5โ€™ 2โ€ tall, 98 Lbs With D Cup Melons Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  25. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Thursday December 26, 2024, our attendants will be Ada ๐Ÿฅฐ, Cici ๐Ÿค—, Mia โค๏ธ and Vicky ๐Ÿ”ฅ See you tomorrow! ๐Ÿ˜‰ Call us at 905-479-6668 to book!
  26. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Slim Sexy Chinese Coco, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Sexy Slim Chinese Jasmine and Sexy Chinese Bella
  27. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Sophia ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  28. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Sasa ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julie ,Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  29. JerryWangWw:
    Suko spa every day have different 6 to 7 girls working here please call 905-597-8880 ๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿคฉ
  30. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒwe have 4young beautiful girls working everyday(open holiday),Wednesday RMT available Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…,service queen Jessica ,she is very friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slide๐Ÿ…,Joey is very good looking,big big breasted excellent massage open mind๐Ÿ’„beautiful Q short Lucy excellent massage really popular (open holiday)must try๐Ÿ”ฅ
  31. AliceSpa:
    ๐ŸŽ„๐ŸŽ…ALICE SPA IS CLOSED TODAY, CHRISTMAS DAY๐ŸŽ…๐ŸŽ„. MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE! SEE YOU TOMORROW!
  32. ASPA:
    ๐—ช๐—˜๐——๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Amy, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  33. ForeverWarden:
    ๐ŸŽ„๐ŸŽ…OPEN TODAY, CHRISTMAS DAY๐ŸŽ…๐ŸŽ„. MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE! Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups
  34. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMILY, KIKI & CINDY. EMILY is a VERY tiny petite SPINNER superstar of the highest quality. Emily has a pretty face, natural A Cups, slim waist, and a lovely spinner bottom, topped off with the very best of services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body. OPEN Christmas!
  35. SugarLoveSpa:
    ๐ŸŽ„๐ŸŽ…YES, WEโ€™RE OPEN TODAY, CHRISTMAS DAY๐ŸŽ…๐ŸŽ„. MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE! Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, LISA & LUCY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LISA is a cute & petite Thai/Chinese mixed beauty with decent massage skills and liberal services. LUCY is a cute young Vietnamese girl, 5โ€™1โ€, 50Kgs, with a full range of services available.
  36. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Vivian & Sasa are in today ๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„ Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ’„Vivian is a Very Horny & Vivacious Chinese Girl! ๐Ÿ’„Sasa is a Young Pretty Chinese Girl๐Ÿ’‹ All Our Girls Provide Lots of E X T R A S & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open from 8am til Late Everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  37. lotushubspa:
    Hi, Louts wishes all customers a Merry Christmas today๐ŸŽ„๐Ÿง‘โ€๐ŸŽ„We are open as usual today and recommend the best female masseuses to customers, including Yuki from China, Helen from Taiwan, and Jessica from South Korea. We live at 10737 Yonge St Unit 13. Please contact 9052375885 or SMS 4163565876, thank you
  38. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Jenny๐Ÿ˜ is a beautiful young part-time student with a very sexy figure and big natural 34D breasts. She can give a great massage and very good open minded service. She knows how to please a man with her natural beauty and charm. S
  39. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Lala and kiki work
  40. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in
  41. EMSpa_schedule:
    Here's a sneak peek of tomorrow's schedule: For Wednesday December 25, 2024, our attendants will be Sandy โค๏ธ and Opal ๐Ÿ˜˜ Have a great Christmas Eve!! And call us at 905-479-6668 to book tomorrow!
  42. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Slim Sexy Chinese Coco, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Sexy Slim Chinese Jasmine and Sexy Chinese Bella
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Lisa ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking
  44. dronerbot:
    Any spa with authentic brown girls?
  45. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธCherry๐ŸŒธLynda Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  46. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ MALIYA, MONIKA, SALMA, AMANDA, ANAYA, KIRAN, SARIKA, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  47. AliceSpa:
    TUESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. BELLA 10AM-2PM: Closing Early on Christmas Eve TODAY December 24, 2pm, AND closed all day Christmas Day December 25. Merry Christmas, everyone!
  48. New spring spa@:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Latino ๐Ÿ’– Malaysia ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  49. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Coco -๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜Our new sexy and slim massage girl Coco exudes elegance and allure, with
  50. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
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