The Orgasm Reflex

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Hi fellow reflexology fans,

I want to talk/ask about the brilliant physician and psychoanalyst Wilheim Reich who was a protege of Sigmund Freud.

He agreed with Freud that sexual development was the origin of ill health and mental illness.

They both believed that most psychological states were dictated by unconscious processes, that infant sexuality develops early but can be repressed, and that this has important consequences for their health. As sexual repression was the cause of the neuroses, the best cure would be to have an active, guilt-free sex life.

Reich had a theory called โ€˜body armouringโ€™. He argued that unreleased psychosexual energy could produce actual physical blocks within muscles and organs, and that these act as a โ€˜body armorโ€™ preventing the release of the energy. Although most didnt know it, muscles remain rigid and tense with this inhibited libido. An orgasm was one way to break through the armour. These ideas developed into a general theory of the importance of a healthy sex life to overall well-being, a theory compatible with Freud's views.

His idea was that the orgasm was not simply a device to aid recreation, but was the body's emotional energy regulator. The healthy the orgasm, the more energy was released, meaning that less was available to create neurotic states. Reich called the ability to release sufficient energy during orgasm โ€˜orgastic potencyโ€™, something that very few individuals could achieve, he argued, because of society's sexual oppression or upbringing. A man or woman without orgastic potency was in a constant state of tension, developing a body armor to keep it in. The outer rigidity and inner anxiety is the state of neurosis, leading to hate, sadism, greed, and at a political level, fascism and antisemitism.

This dissolution of the โ€˜body armourโ€™ also brought back the repressed memory of the childhood situation that had caused the repression, he wrote. If the session worked as intended, he wrote that he could see waves of pleasure move through their bodies, a series of spontaneous, involuntary movements.

Reich called these the โ€˜orgasm reflexโ€™. The two goals of Reichian therapy became the attainment of this orgasm reflex during therapy, and orgastic potency during intercourse. Reich called the flow of energy that he said he observed in his patients' bodies โ€˜bio-electricityโ€™. He went on to scientifically prove the existence of this, what he called Orgone energy, ('chi') in experiments (with Einstein).

I agree completely with all of this. The key to any good health (and any therapy for good health) is making sure thereโ€™s no over-tension in the orgasm. When I used to have a bad back, if I went for reflexology session within a day or two after an orgasm she would say โ€˜oh, youโ€™re quite tight todayโ€™. I often used to feel crappy, achy, depressed for a day or two after an orgasm until I figured it all out! I realised after a lot of alexander technique and reflexology that it was to do with fear of pain over a childhood operation (undescended testicle), something I had basically forgotten about. My muscles were rigid and tense and all thoses contractions during an orgasm when my muscles were tight sent my body off in badly โ€˜skew-riffโ€™ manner, which does affect long-term posture and muscle strength. Thankfully, im over all that now.
But I would have figured it out quicker if it was in the literature.

Thereโ€™s now lots of Neo-Reichian therapies such as Alexander Technique, Rolfing and Feldenekreis. In not a reflexologist but probably reflexology is one too.

What I donโ€™t understand, unless Im wrong, is why these therapies donโ€™t make a bigger thing of this in their literature and teaching, definitely Alexander technique doesn't mention it. Surely in this day and age no-ones bothered (offended) about reading about this important health subject (?) esp. if will improve their health.

Is there a mention of the โ€˜orgasm reflexโ€™ in reflexology?
Is there a spot on the foot that represents the โ€˜orgasm reflexโ€™?
In my opinion, the whole foot represents the orgasm as the whole body needs to free and relaxed during one to remain healthy.

Cheers

this 'arnie sounding' guy talks about it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqgJ6FmZK7o
 
wasnt really what i meant or why i asked.

Im not trying to find out what spot to touch to give a woman an orgasm, it was more if someone his having unhealthy orgasms does it show up in a particular way?

Ive got a hunch that if someone has any problem reflexes on their body, an orgasm will make it worse (at very least temporarily), but on the other hand if someone has a 'free', relaxed healthy body, an orgasm is very good for them.

at around 6mins they talk about it here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wD8jW5Uqdk&feature=PlayList&p=CE337D536AEFF8B0&index=0&playnext=1
 
Fab post Matty30 - so good i am going to re read it!
 
Good post Matty30

Reading your post, it seems that what you are describing is more of a mental/emotional rather than a physical problem and reflexology seems to give more physical responses to what is going on in the body, though yes a physical manifestation can have and often does have mental/emotional undercurrents.

Unfortunately I don't have the answer for you concerning a reflexology point which will address this, but I am sure if someone puts their mind to it, they will come up with a solution, after all we can detect when women are ovulating and which ovary is producing an egg, so why not, anything is possible.

To maintain good health, we do need to be balanced on all levels of our existence, there are a lot of people out there with a lot of problems associated with sexual repression, guilt, anxiety etc. Which does have an effect on the whole person.
 
I would say they are the same thing, and by quoting Reich himself who was all about reuniting the mind and body:

"The body's outward appearance is an accurate reflection of what's happening inside." Reich said.

This idea is also the major part of the Alexander technique. When you change your thoughts you will physically change too.
Like in my case, the mental memory actually was causing the physical pain and very bad posture, they were the same thing/problem. As I came to terms with that memory of the raw pain I experienced as a child, in other words learnt to think of it without flinching, holding any part of my body, my posture and muscle structure changed dramatically. (I used reflexology to help me do this too).
In reich case, he had to release the mental pain from his mum having an affair and his father dying, both when he was a kid. When he finally 'released' this mental anguish and came to terms with it his body physically changed for the better too.

I think many who go through alot of reflexology therapy will notice these types of changes too ???

Reich wanted a full-body emotional response to life. 'If you cover yourself up, may deaden pain, but also rob yourself of full joy.'
When someone inhibits an impulse they feel tension. Inhibited libido is tense muscles, sexual charm is relaxed muscles.

Reich described the 'Functions of muscular armour':

-Keeps potentially explosive emotions in
-Wards off emotions of others.
-Reich noticed men have trouble taking away armour because they are so accustomed to suppressing feelings and emotions.
-An armoured person does not feel their armour as such. Reich believed that mind-body work is necessary for people to rid themselves of this armor.
- Body armour and character armour are essentially the same. Their function is trying to protect yourself against the pain of notexpressing things that society says you may not express. Muscular armour is character armor expressed in body, muscular rigidity.
- Armouring is the sum total of the muscular attitudes which a person develops as a defense against the breakthrough of emotions, especially anxity, rage, sexual excitation. Character armour is the sum total of all the years of the muscular attituded that have also been incorporated in the personโ€™s character.

Character armour can be reflected in life patterns.
Karen Horney, reflecting on Reichโ€™s work, noted that people may arrange their lives to fit their character armour. Thus a severely introverted person may find an apartment in a building that is so configured that he or she need not meet or interact with neighbours, and shop at impersonal stores where minimal contact with others is necessary.

A reflexologist should be able to sense the amount of body armour or character armour within someone by the state of their reflexes.
 
Yes, we work an the principle that the body listens to the thoughts and responds in an appropriate manner, change the thoughts and the physicality will also alter to apply the new positive thought patterns.

However this is a little outside of the remit of reflexology, reflexologists generally do not get taught this sort of thing, so it is not surprising that they do not make use of it.

We do this type of work through our Gaia-Now energy healing and personal development, using the reprogramming part of the modality, this works directly on a mental/emotional level of the healee, utilising mindfulness within the oneness to directly change negative self limiting thought patterns and beliefs into positive ones within the Now.

Reflexology will be able to monitor the changes as they happen, but on its own reflexology can't bring about the changes, for mental changes to occur requires something to either directly change the way someone thinks as we do, or to work as a catalyst to stimulate the way someone thinks.
 
Leaving the orgasm issue at the side for a second,
do you think reflexology can bring mental changes by default? as in, by stopping the physical problem, emotional releases come will with it?
 
That is a possibility if the person giving it is mindful of the connections, but to just address the physical issues without first removing the underlying problem, will often just result in the physical manifestation of the inner conflict reforming, or manifesting as something else.

This is the problem with an allopathic approach to health, it only addresses the manifestation often to the detriment of the person.
 
Brilliant post. I have read all contributions and have found the so interesting. As I am a newly qualified reflexologist I am still feeding my need for knowledge. Thanks.
 
I've only quickly skimmed over this thread as I'll be going out soon, but there is much food for thought.



I've not read anything about this before. I'm unsure on the term, will need to do research, but is the orgasm not a muscle response to stimuli?
I can't imagine there being a reflex that relates to the orgasm apart from the reproductive area.

I can relate to the body amour theory, I feel my chakras open and chi ripple through by body and leave my feet after an orgasm.


Maybe I've mis-read this thread, I'll have to return when I have more time.
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Suki deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in
  33. New spring spa@:
    โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅsexy hot busty ๐ŸŒธCanadian๐ŸŒธJapanese ๐ŸŒธKorean ๐ŸŒธgirls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ
  34. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Sexy Chinese Bella & Chinese Amber
  35. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Foxy -๐Ÿ”ฅYour new addiction at Sparkling Spa! A tall 5โ€™7โ€ sexy Korean girl with a wi
  36. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธClaire๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธEly Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  37. Squirtersmakemehot:
    Squirt
  38. Squirtersmakemehot:
    Squirr
  39. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธHellen๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธTaniaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  40. JerryWangWw:
    ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–Suko spa every day have 7 different style masseuse working here please call 905-597-8880 ๐Ÿ’‹
  41. AliceSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 416-298-0898 [/color] 3 Top Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: BELLA : is a young & pretty Taiwanese girl, busty D Cup, curvy body, deep bbbj, cfk, dim, finger in p*ssy, extra services, excellent service. CICI (10:30am to 9pm) : is a petite cutie from Vietnam, natural C Cups
  42. HollywoodSpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: COCO & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. COCO is an attractive attendant with nice massage skills & good services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ€™5โ€
  43. lotushubspa:
    Hi, Louts๐Ÿ’‹ recommends the best female masseuse to customers today, Anna๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’ฏ from China Coco๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’ฏ from Taiwan, Tina๐Ÿ’‹ from South Korea, living at 10737 Yonge St Unit13. Please contact 9052375885โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿ’‹ or SMS 4163565876, ๐Ÿ’‹Thank you๐Ÿ’‹
  44. Sunrise Spa:
    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is Coco and Kitty ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Reika, Sera & Cindy. Reika is Japanese, loves to please. Sara has DD cups and a medium build. She can provide an excellent bbbj and top quality massage. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY & NANA. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills Nana is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUCY is a cute young Vietnamese girl, 5โ€™1โ€, 50Kgs, with a full range of services available. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups
  48. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga kik and mia
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 girls are working today, young sexy Yoyo 36DD with curve body open mind and young cute slime Sophia 30โ€™s, sweet GFE Lina and pretty Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple๐Ÿ˜˜ - Brand new girl from Taiwan ju
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