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...motherhood as a career choice ? I'm not completely heartless and yes anyone can make a mistake but I can't understand why in this country we reward people for making the same mistake over an over again .

My suggestion is that there should be no increase in benefits for having more than one child and in fact having a second child that you can not support financially should be made a criminal offence with a mandatory sentence of sterilisation .

If someone is too stupid to use contraception then surely they are too stupid to be a parent .
Punk Rock ; It is the woman that is left with the baby so it is up to her to ensure controception is used and even if there's a mistake abortion is free .

I would agree though that men who go around making woman after woman pregnant should be sterilised too .
Katie B ; You've completely missed the point . I'm not talking about people like you , I'm talking about young women that become single parents deliberatly to gain accomidation and benefits and then continue to have more and more children because they're completely irrasponsable human beings .
 
The UK already has too much control over people's private lives, so criminalizing something that is none of your business is not the right thing to do, but reducing welfare benefits is common sense, in fact, I don't think women should get any money for any children at all.
 
we need strict morality , our society is morally decadant thats why we have so many problems.
 
i agree, but i think if you cannot afford children then you do not have them and take the precautions to ensure this. All that is happening is these scum are breeding more children that will no doubt tread the same path as their intellectually stunted parent. In some of these areas you have grandmothers who are 30 and great grandmothers in the mid 40's.

Again i believe we have too much freedom in this nation. Things need to change and the way this would be done would be harsh in the short term but will stop the problems in the future.
 
I suppose because you think females get pregnant "all by themselves"... A man can use a condom. To be fair, start with castration.
 
You dont legislate these issues, you educate. You would advocate incriminating pregnancy...
 
Care and support should be given to the natives first, i don't understand how economic migrant women allow themselves to get pregnant. The idiocy of it going to a foreign country and getting pregnant. Romanian gypsies are just baby making machines. I'm sick of seeing locals heavily pregnant pushing a double pram and all this by the age of 20 but economic migrants should be dissuaded from having kids at all. If they do fall pregnant they should be sent home
 
increased benefits? Are all brits on welfare? MY wife stays at home and takes care of the house and our children. I get on "benefit" other than to pay $25K per year in taxes so that liberal crack head "housewives" (with no husband) can sit around smoking crack and drinking liquor they bought by selling their kids food stamps while they get ready to have their 12th child form the 9th different man.
 
I agree your not completely heartless just 98.9% heartless.
 
Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?

Only kidding. I think more effective would be to bring back the social stigma attached to having children out of wedlock. Make people outcasts for having b******s and there'll be less of them.
 
You fail to take into account the fact that unless you are a millionaire most people struggle to afford to have children.

I have 2, obviously I was married to their Father but when he became a work shy layabout I had to fend for myself and my kids.

I work full time, look after them best I can. What we lack in money we make up for in love and not being rich doesn't prevent me from raising them with values and morals.

But can I afford them? Hell No!! Should I be sterilised? Hell no!!

I wouldn't have another one anyway for that reason but if I chose to, I would bear that responsibility myself, as I have already done twice.
 
In this country you have a legal financial responsibility for any children you have until they are 16. Therefore, it is my opinion that if you have a child, if you are on benefits you obviously cannot fill this obligation without having to claim extra money from the taxpayer, and should have your child removed and taken into care, or given into the care of another family member who can afford to look after it.
Perhaps that way people wouldn't have a child just to get a better council flat or more benefits. Did you hear that guy who runs Asda saying about how they find baby's nappies and food and stuff dumped in the booze aisle, as people decide they'd rather spend their money on drink than on their kids? We have some serious problems in this country, and sorting out the benefits system so that it doesn't encourage people to have kids they can't support (who are more likely to then themselves go on to live on benefits all their lives) would be a good step in the right direction.
 
I think we should encourage marriage and childrearing on a government level. That would drive liberals crazy, at least.
 
The object of the exercise is to end child poverty. Benefits are given to anyone looking after a child whether they do so as a couple, a single teenager, a foster carer or whatever. There has been talk of bringing back residential homes for single mothers who cannot support their children - but I'm sure it will all be quietly forgotten after the next election (and when they've worked out the cost).
 
I'm with you on this one.

The taxpayer in this country shells out enough for those who genuinely need help - to then have to dig even deeper for those who see it as a career option is an insult to intelligence.

Benefit payments next year will account for 1/3rd of public spending, that's around รƒโ€šร‚ยฃ193 billion. Then the rest of us wonder why the country's skint and the Government will need to borrow รƒโ€šร‚ยฃ200 billion to make ends meet next year alone.
 
I can't see how legislation will stop pregnancy, however, if NO benefits at all were available for the first child, it might make a lot of youngsters think twice about the possible consequences. If you can't afford kids, don''t have them until you can. I am sick and tired of my taxes being used to pay for children being produced by children.
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Grace๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A new alluring and skilled Asi
  38. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Gold ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Mia,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vivi ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Ivy , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. hiyamickey:
    We have 11 girls working at Reinella wellness, special: 45 minutes $45 , 60 minutes $55 90 minutes $85, 2 hours $100 , โ˜Ž๏ธ: 905-851-4888 Address: 6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan
  41. AliceSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. Alice spa has 4 very hot girls today. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY (10am โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. ANNA (1pm-9pm) : is a hot & sexy curvy girl from Vietnam with C Cups
  42. HollywoodSpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: TRACY & MICHICO. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. TRACY is a slim, taller & pretty lady, very friendly with an extensive menu. MICHICO is a young slim, beautiful
  43. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธMei๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธTinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Lisa, Mia & Sasa. Lisa is a young, slim, friendly & very beautiful Vietnamese beauty with a nice body, nice 34D boobs, slim waist, impressive booty, nice massage, great services. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj like a queen
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: LINA & CINDY. LINA is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best!
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜:ANA, ELLA, TIFFANY & TINA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and very pleasing
  47. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Vicky๐ŸฅฐA new arrival at our branch ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ‘ฏโ€โ™€๏ธVicky is a very young CBC part time student working for tuition fees and books, this bright young sexy girl is willing to showcase her eagerness to please AND be pleased. Busty 36DD boobs
  48. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธAlisa๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธCindy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  49. lotushubspa:
    Hi, Louts๐Ÿ’‹ recommends the best female masseuse to customers today, Anna๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’ฏ from China Coco๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’ฏ from Taiwan, Yuki๐Ÿ’‹ from South Korea, living at 10737 Yonge St Unit13. Please contact 9052375885โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿ’‹ or SMS 4163565876, ๐Ÿ’‹Thank you๐Ÿ’‹ lotushubspa Post #367 Jan 3, 2025 Forum: Toronto Massage Review
  50. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Slim Sexy Chinese Coco & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Jasmine
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