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Why is the narrative changing? Up until now it’s been get the vaccine to curb infection and transmission.

Why do we have new restrictions?


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Seriously? You guys know everything I thought. You’re smarter than all of us right ? How do you not know then that the virus has the ability to mutate and change itself. It does this particularly in areas where there are high rates of unvaccinated people. Because the virus is now different the vaccines are not as effective. They need to be tweaked now too. This will be the cycle for a while unfortunately. They still stop you from dying though. This isn’t a new thing. Every coronavirus has always done this. That’s why we still get colds. They change. So does COVID. If everyone in the world was vaccinated a year ago we would not be here. That’s the science.

Unfortunately, it gives you goofballs ammo to shoot down science but it is really the result of you not understanding it and prolonging the process.

I hope you guys are enjoying your mothers basements and inability to go out freely to restaurants and events and travel. You’re gonna be without those things for a long time.
 
I started typing a response about how this all works but there’s no point.

It’ll be Interesting to revisit these threads in a few years and see what ends up happening and how it affected all of us.

It will be very interesting to revisit these threads to see how the vaccines affected people. It’ll be interesting to see our predictions come true. It’ll be interesting to see the narrative changes from get the vaccine, it will end Covid, to get a booster for a variant the vaccine does nothing for. Who knows what the narrative/excuses will be in a few years.

We predicted all of this.

Today we came close to 4812, the all time high Ontario has seen in all of the pandemic. What we are doing is clearly not working.


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Seriously? You guys know everything I thought. You’re smarter than all of us right ? How do you not know then that the virus has the ability to mutate and change itself. It does this particularly in areas where there are high rates of unvaccinated people. Because the virus is now different the vaccines are not as effective. They need to be tweaked now too. This will be the cycle for a while unfortunately. They still stop you from dying though. This isn’t a new thing. Every coronavirus has always done this. That’s why we still get colds. They change. So does COVID. If everyone in the world was vaccinated a year ago we would not be here. That’s the science.

Unfortunately, it gives you goofballs ammo to shoot down science but it is really the result of you not understanding it and prolonging the process.

I hope you guys are enjoying your mothers basements and inability to go out freely to restaurants and events and travel. You’re gonna be without those things for a long time.

I love that you find joy in us not being able to go out and do things, when it’s the vaccinated that are making up the majority of new cases. And the disparity is growing daily.

Yes, we understand science. That’s why you don’t develop a vaccine during a pandemic. Rather you develop treatment. No one concentrated on finding a treatment. If we did, people would get Covid, be treated, and Covid wouldn’t be a problem.

Oh, and I’ve had Covid and have more immunity than any vaccinated person.


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I honestly think though Canada as a whole has enough vaccine uptake to curb this thing. Well the old thing. The problem is that the rest of the world, particularly poor third world countries are extremely low in vaccination rate. Like 1%. Or less. That’s where this Omicron came from. So until the world shares the wealth of vaccines to the whole world we are stuck doing this
 
It will be very interesting to revisit these threads to see how the vaccines affected people. It’ll be interesting to see our predictions come true. It’ll be interesting to see the narrative changes from get the vaccine, it will end Covid, to get a booster for a variant the vaccine does nothing for. Who knows what the narrative/excuses will be in a few years.

We predicted all of this.

Today we came close to 4812, the all time high Ontario has seen in all of the pandemic. What we are doing is clearly not working.


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It isn’t the same virus now as it was. You don’t get that do ya bud?
 
I love that you find joy in us not being able to go out and do things, when it’s the vaccinated that are making up the majority of new cases. And the disparity is growing daily.


Yes, we understand science. That’s why you don’t develop a vaccine during a pandemic. Rather you develop treatment. No one concentrated on finding a treatment. If we did, people would get Covid, be treated, and Covid wouldn’t be a problem.

Oh, and I’ve had Covid and have more immunity than any vaccinated person.


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You really are a bright one. Why didn’t anyone else think of that ?

lets talk about ICU disparity then. So many more vaccinated CASES. Where are the really sick people in ICU then? They should be there if there are so many more CASES involving vaccinated people.

Nope. The DISPARITY flips. Almost like magic. That’s the pixie dust they put in the vaccines. It’s working.

You say 76% of cases are in vaccinated. It was actually 71% by your own numbers. But anyway if that’s the case why is it only 29% of ICU beds are vaccinated then ? Shouldn’t it be the other way around ? 14% of the population taking up 70-ish percent of the beds. How do those numbers work.
it’s been said many times. The purpose of the vaccine was to stop severe illness and death.

They are doing that. Even still. Booster makes it better.
 
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You really are a bright one. Why didn’t anyone else think of that ?

lets talk about ICU disparity then. So many more vaccinated CASES. Where are the really sick people in ICU then? They should be there if there are so many more CASES involving vaccinated people.

Nope. The DISPARITY flips. Almost like magic. That’s the pixie dust they put in the vaccines. It’s working.

You say 76% of cases are in vaccinated. It was actually 71% by your own numbers. But anyway if that’s the case why is it only 29% of ICU beds are vaccinated then ? Shouldn’t it be the other way around ? 14% of the population taking up 70-ish percent of the beds. How do those numbers work.
it’s been said many times. The purpose of the vaccine was to stop severe illness and death.

They are doing that. Even still. Booster makes it better.

I agree, we should be focused on ICU cases. But as we stand, governments are using the daily infections to curb our freedoms. So that’s the number we have to use. And today, it’s 77% vaccinated infections.

If the vaccines work so well, why are there any vaccinated people in the ICU, let alone 29%?

Many accredited doctors worked on treatments. The powers that be focussed on vaccines and dismissed treatments. From this point alone, I know you don’t know a lot about this subject.


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I agree, we should be focused on ICU cases. But as we stand, governments are using the daily infections to curb our freedoms. So that’s the number we have to use. And today, it’s 77% vaccinated infections.

If the vaccines work so well, why are there any vaccinated people in the ICU, let alone 29%?

Many accredited doctors worked on treatments. The powers that be focussed on vaccines and dismissed treatments. From this point alone, I know you don’t know a lot about this subject.


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If you ask any doctor, prevention is always better than treatment.

Treatment has its place for sure. But treatment takes up hospital resources. If it was a treatment based approach then hospitals wouldn’t be able to keep up.

Your last statement though summed up your side on this and I won’t pull you away from your podcasts anymore. I know your type and there isn’t any point discussing any further.

I do wish you the best @jimmyd
 
It will be very interesting to revisit these threads to see how the vaccines affected people. It’ll be interesting to see our predictions come true. It’ll be interesting to see the narrative changes from get the vaccine, it will end Covid, to get a booster for a variant the vaccine does nothing for. Who knows what the narrative/excuses will be in a few years.

We predicted all of this.

Today we came close to 4812, the all time high Ontario has seen in all of the pandemic. What we are doing is clearly not working.


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It’s amazing how blatant the govt has been in moving the goal posts on this whole thing but fear and paranoia now has such a strong grip on ppl at this point that they’ve been blinded to no end. The leaders have the sheep right where they want them to do their bidding. It’s a civil war now among the vaxxed and unvaxxed, and the evil corrupt leaders are laughing at the clown show.
 
For the record though. I don’t agree with new restrictions. It won’t do anything. It’s already spreading so fast - way too late. Just gotta ride It out now. Everyone is gonna get this. Just some will get more sick than others.
 
If you ask any doctor, prevention is always better than treatment.

Treatment has its place for sure. But treatment takes up hospital resources. If it was a treatment based approach then hospitals wouldn’t be able to keep up.

Your last statement though summed up your side on this and I won’t pull you away from your podcasts anymore. I know your type and there isn’t any point discussing any further.

I do wish you the best @jimmyd

Treatment would eliminate the majority of hospitalizations.

I love that me being informed is a reason to stop the discussion. All the best!

Can’t wait to revisit this in the future.


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It’s amazing how blatant the govt has been in moving the goal posts on this whole thing but fear and paranoia now has such a strong grip on ppl at this point that they’ve been blinded to no end. The leaders have the sheep right where they want them to do their bidding. It’s a civil war now among the vaxxed and unvaxxed, and the evil corrupt leaders are laughing at the clown show.

Absolutely! Whether it’s malice or incompetence, the public has been screwed.


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nope. Not jumping ship. Going to check on my house there. Coming back in a month or two.

I believe in science.

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Science is not religion. Scientists are not clergymen.

If you "believe in science" and "trust the experts", you've got science and religion mixed up.

It will be interesting to revisit this thread in 2096 when the FDA and Pfizer releases it's vaccine data...in 75 years...nothing suspicious about that at all 🤣

 
Omicron is an anagram for Moronic. Is that just a coincidence?

They are mocking you right in your face and you don't even realize it. And you know what? They are right.

90% of you are morons. Stupid, gullible, easy to control, morons.

Your Media Overlords know this, which is why they gaslight you like this ⬇


"SURGE IN HEART DISEASE DUE TO 'CLIMATE CHANGE,' 'BROKEN HEART SYNDROME,' 'PANDEMIC ANXIETY' .... LOL yeah I'm sure that's it :rolf
 
This back and forth is just dumb. Everyone needs to believe what they believe and live and let live.

Mental midgets with obsessive opinions need to take a moment and get a grip.
 
Looking forward to hobby when things seems better, but not looking forward to another price hike for hobbying.
 
Remember the hopeful, promising, good old days.

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