Do you know what these girls think of you?

The getting wet part though can happen whether she like you or not. Kinda like you can get hard if something rubs on you the right way even though you're not attracted to/repsect it etc.

Chances are most of what goes on in the room is an act. Put it this way I usually let the MPA know how I like things done. She does not, yet I'm able to make her cum? Are all women wire the same way? No. Am I some sort of orgasm machine? Definitely NO. Am I gullable? No.
 
Racism does exsist but not necessarily over race and skin colour.
 
This is a FANTASTIC thread!

IMO the MPA/Client relationship is SYMBIOTIC.

IE> MPA's want $$$ and need clients to earn it. Clients want intimacy and need MPA's to provide it.

Some will fool themselves into believing one side holds some type of moral high ground but those arguments IMO are merely rational lies.

I genuinely respect the ladies I spend time with, and hope they respect me in return.

Are there any guarantees MPA's don't laugh behind my back and call me a loser? Of course not, but then again I only control what goes on in MY mind. I have zero control over another human being's thoughts, actions or motivations.

Do I care? Sometimes, but I've trained myself to be much less emotional.
 
I am glad that you take my comments ... "Seriously".

Have a great weekend !!!

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Strong this is kind of what I was saying in this thread. The SP mentality and the way interact with clients is different and to me more genuine then that of a MPA. I think we are saying the same thing, just different in wording.
 
I'd have to agree with Alexa here. I mean who cares what they think of us. Any answer or assumptions we might have or get are most likely to be false. This industry is based on fantasy. Although some genuine relationships have been created in this hobby, the majority is a matter of a monetary transaction between you and the MP. The reason I think we shouldn't care about what they think is because at the end of the day us as clients have our judgments and opinions of these ladies. Like it or not, deny it or not, your preconceived judgments are probably stereotypical and condescending. So why not just let bygons be bygons. Let them have their thoughts nd let us have ours.

On another note, if you think the chatter and opinions in the MP world are intersting try the SP world. IMHO I think it is of a total different make up. You do find genuine relationships and opinions between clients and SP's. I think it has something to do with the act of sex oppose to just being jerked off. Don't get me wrong, most are as I said above, only a monetary transaction, but you can find genuine feelings more so then in the MP world. My opinion only of course.
 
I'm not so sure about Phnine's suggestion about genuine relationships being more likely with SPs than with MPAs. Though a lurker on the board, I've been a hobbist in DC and Toronto for the past 8 years. In DC I started with MPs and then moved on to SPs then migrated back to MPs. I've kept in touch via e-mail with 3 MPAs I was once saw often as a regular client, 2 of whom have since left the business. They chat about their travels, current BFs, jobs, what they are doing for fun, etc (one e-mail every three or four weeks on average). They're not soliciting business - 2 of them have left MP work for good and moved on, so I have to assume here that I was a bit more than a client who they didn't think of outside the session and made fun of to other MPAs. I never kept up with any of the SPs I saw, nor did I even get contact info from them to do so. I think Sps can view clients just as clients - or not - the same as MPAs can. At the end of the day, it depends on if the MPA (or SP) clicks with you and enjoys talking to you. I'm not saying they want to date us (though I did go out a couple of times with one MPA - another topic getting off point and that is discussed a lot on massageplanet.net) as 'romantic material', but some of the MPAs do enjoy talking with us and do remember what we say to them weeks/months later. Yes, it is a fantasy business MPAs are in, and yes, a lot of them I'm sure are thinking of something else during the session, or building client relations for desired future visits, but I guess once they leave the biz and don't want business, if they still keep up the 'aquaintanceship' then we aren't always losers in their eyes. Often, yes, always, no.

Some MPAs I visit I don't click with or talk to - it is just a fun fantasy - so the conversation and humanizing of the 'business relationship' takes two to tango. In Sales in my DC job some work clients (men and women) I was business only with and didn't like at all, some I talked to casually but didn't keep up with, and some I exchanged info with and we get together for a meal when I'm in town (or vice versa) and we e-mail each other about work, news of the world, etc. This can happen with MPAs too (or SPs, though not in my case), if you want it and she wants it.

Some guys want to be on friendly terms with theit MPAs; some guys don't. Some MPAs only chat with some clients because its a job, some enjoy talking to them. Each MPA is different just like every girl you might meet in a bar is different.
My two cents worth...
 
On a few occassions, I have been astounded when an SP or MPA recalls in detail, something I said to her months ago. I had always assumed most of my conversations were just polite chatter. Simple things like that tell me they were at least paying attention before they made fun of me.
 
Hey, all of you over there on the otherside of the sandbox, come play with TQM, I think he's cool.

I agree with everything you've said, and then some. You've actually articulated many of the points I've made over the years, but from an even more brutally honest perspective. You betcha they care what they think - and that's why I maintain many of 'em stopped having "fun" a long time ago. It's so easy to identify between the lines of their posts.

I maintain that if a hot girl touching your pee-pee isn't truly what you're after, it's probably best to stay away from the neon sign.

Nice posting TQM.

kkarn/
 
there are a few girls in the biz that are sexual and enjoy their jobs some what.
if a guy comes in and doesnt shower or wash the right areas enough, no amount of money will make her enjoy it.
 
I remember and I think I posted this before, a MPA was showing me around the new improvements the spa had made. We stopped in front of a room where many MPA's were gossiping. The things I heard were pretty mean. Things like body type and disgust, harry, ugly....etc. And I'm sure some of you guys that have regulars have been told about other clients.

Do I care what an MPA thinks about me, nope. But I think it's best not to know.
 
Umm an asshole is an asshole regardless of colour or place of birth.
Billybob from the trailerpark who's rude,pushy and unclean will likely get "descriminated" against well before the clean, polite Indian, Black or Italian dude. It's how you carry yourself, not where you're from.
 
Interesting I've never thought too much about it but yeah I guess there's a difference between MPA ans SP mentality.

I guess the big difference is that with SPs the price is usually set for the hour while the MPA can vary depending on the place, the girl, the option the guy wants. But other than it's a bit more of a hustle in the MPA game I'd say there's a lot more that's similar than unlike.

I think the clientele for MPAs varies a great deal more than SPs. Just from a socioeconomic standpoint. Also, getting an SP takes a little more planning. The sobriety of both types of clients well I can't comment on that one.

Wow as for SB's SP friend. I'm deeply hurt. The only reason I don't get SPs is that I always feel a bit weird about inviting a stranger to my home and I'd rather not spring for a hotel room.
 
After reading this thread, and seeing how many of you know that your nothing but a walking talking wallet for these girls. And how they have such a lack of respect foy you all. ie: disscussing what you all keep so private with their "co-worker" (shanken my head and rolling my eyes). No wonder why they think you all are idiots!!! Mind baggling, isn't it?
 
What happens with the SP that makes you think this?

I think there's too much variation in types of SPs and MPAs to be able to say that.

Can you really say the same for the discount SP (below $150) vs the EE escort vs the GFE escort vs the covered escort vs the super high dollar escorts ($300 +).

Guess I'm just looking for some clarification.
 
I wish it were true.

The facts are different though. That polite black person still somehow manages to get stereotyped before he's even been seen. That well dressed Indian gentleman just might get a very so-so session because of some pre-conceived prejudice. And the jew might face some comment about how "Jewish" he looks (code: has a big nose) and it could be said in the same breath as a comment about how they are better tippers (or are worse tippers; or whatever).

Again - I'm not saying all girls are like this. But some are, and those prejudices sometimes pop up when you least expect them.
 
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