Poll Do you think the Trump insurrectionists have blown their wad?

Following the insurrection what do you think will happen in the next little while?

  • 1 The US will calm down, Trump will cause no further trouble, extremists will hunker down.

    Votes: 12 40.0%
  • 2 Trump and his acolytes will create chaos at the inauguration on January 20.

    Votes: 9 30.0%
  • 3 Extremists will go underground for a while, regroup, then start committing acts of terror.

    Votes: 5 16.7%
  • 4 A second coup will be attempted in the next week or two, this time with better organization.

    Votes: 4 13.3%

  • Total voters
    30
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I just saw this response, hence the delay in my own.

You seem to be retreating from your original position that Trump used language that directly incited an insurrection. So now claims of cheating (however silly) equate to incitement to insurrection? I repeat my first question, is that he measure you wish applied to both sides?

The punishment for Trump's wrong claims were the losses in court. That's how the system works. You want him impeached because he brought the court cases? This has just become a tribal farce.

Iโ€™m not retreating. In word and deed Trump absolutely and directly incited the insurrection.

He was not impeached for bringing court cases.

The Capitol of the worldโ€™s oldest functioning democracy got ransacked by a mob determined to violently interfere with the peaceful transition of power that is the critical, sacred tradition that democracy depends on. To some that is a really, really big deal. To others, not so much.

It never would have happened without the incitement of Donald Trump. Many people agree on this. You and I donโ€™t, and thatโ€™s fine. I respect your opinion.

To answer your question: yes if any other politician were so clearly at fault for provoking violence, left or right, yes I would want them to be held accountable.

Again there are degrees of wrongdoingโ€ฆ there is no whataboutism that compares to gravity of what Trump wrought, particularly given the highest very standards which should reasonably be expected of a President above all.

For myself, the assessment of Mitch McConnell, now the most senior elected member of Trumpโ€™s own party, is very persuasive and damning:

January 6th was a disgrace. American citizens attacked their own government. They used terrorism to try to stop a specific piece of domestic business they did not like. Fellow Americans beat and bloodied our own police. They stormed the center floor. They tried to hunt down the Speaker of the House. They built a gallows and chatted about murdering the vice president. They did this because theyโ€™d been fed wild, falsehoods by the most powerful man on earth because he was angry. He lost an election. Former President Trumpโ€™s actions preceding the riot were a disgraceful dereliction of duty. The House accused the former president of quote โ€œIncitementโ€. That is a specific term from the criminal law. Let me just put that aside for a moment and reiterate something I said weeks ago. Thereโ€™s no question, none, that President Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day. No question about it.

The people who stormed this building believed they were acting on the wishes and instructions of their president and having that belief was a foreseeable consequence of the growing crescendo of false statements, conspiracy theories, and reckless hyperbole, which the defeated president kept shouting into the largest megaphone on planet Earth. The issue is not only the president intemperate language on January 6th. It is not just his endorsement of remarks in which an associate urged quote โ€œTrial by combatโ€. It was also the entire manufactured atmosphere of looming catastrophe. The increasingly wild myths about a reverse landslide election that was somehow being stolen. Some secret coup by our now president.

Now I defended the presidentโ€™s right to bring any complaints to our legal system. The legal system spoke, the electoral college spoke. As I stood up and said, clearly at that time, the election was settled. It was over, but that just really opened a new chapter of even wilder and more unfounded claims.The leader of the free world cannot spend weeks thundering that shadowy forces are stealing our country and then feign surprise when people believe him and do reckless things. โ€ฆ sadly many politicians sometimes make overheated comments or use metaphors. We saw that. That unhinged listeners might take literally, but that was different. Thatโ€™s different from what we saw. This was an intensifying crescendo of conspiracy theories orchestrated by an outgoing president who seemed determined to either overturn the voterโ€™s decision or else torch our institutions on the way out.

The unconscionable behaviour did not end when the violence actually began. Whatever our ex president claims he thought might happen a day, whatever right reaction heโ€™s says he meant to produce by that afternoon we know he was watching the same live television as the rest of us. A mob was assaulting the Capitol in his name, these criminals who are carrying his banners, hanging his flags and screaming their loyalty to him. It was obvious that only President Trump could end this. He was the only one who could. Former aides publicly begged him to do so. Loyal allies frantically called the administration. The president did not act swiftly. He did not do his job. He didnโ€™t take steps so federal law could be faithfully executed and order restored. No, instead, according to public reports, he watched television happily as the chaos unfolded. He kept pressing his scheme to overturn the election. Now, even after it was clear to any reasonable observer that Vice President Pence was in serious danger. Even as the mob carrying Trump banners was beating cops and breaching perimeters their president sent a further tweet, attacking his own vice president.

Now predictably and foreseeably under the circumstances, members of the mob seemed to interpret this as a further inspiration to lawlessness and violence not surprisingly. Later, even when the president did halfheartedly began calling for peace he didnโ€™t call right away for the riot to end. He did not tell the mob to depart until even later. And even then with police officers bleeding and broken glass covering Capitol floors, he kept repeating election lies and praising the criminals. In recent weeks, our ex-presidentโ€™s associates have tried to use the 74 million Americans who voted to reelect him as a kind of human shield against criticism. Using the 74 million who voted for him as kind of a human seal shield against criticism. Anyone who decries his awful behaviour is accused of insulting millions of voters. Thatโ€™s an absurd deflection. 74 million Americans did not invade the Capitol, hundreds of rioters did. 74 million Americans did not engineer the campaign of disinformation and rage that provoked it. One person did, just one.
 
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Iโ€™m not retreating. In word and deed Trump absolutely and directly incited the insurrection.

He was not impeached for bringing court cases.

The Capitol of the worldโ€™s oldest functioning democracy got ransacked by a mob determined to violently interfere with the peaceful transition of power that is the critical, sacred tradition that democracy depends on. To some that is a really, really big deal. To others, not so much.

It never would have happened without the incitement of Donald Trump. Many people agree on this. You and I donโ€™t, and thatโ€™s fine. I respect your opinion.

To answer your question: yes if any other politician were so clearly at fault for provoking violence, left or right, yes I would want them to be held accountable.

Again there are degrees of wrongdoingโ€ฆ there is no whataboutism that compares to gravity of what Trump wrought, particularly given the highest very standards which should reasonably be expected of a President above all.

For myself, the assessment of Mitch McConnell, now the most senior elected member of Trumpโ€™s own party, is very persuasive and damning:

January 6th was a disgrace. American citizens attacked their own government. They used terrorism to try to stop a specific piece of domestic business they did not like. Fellow Americans beat and bloodied our own police. They stormed the center floor. They tried to hunt down the Speaker of the House. They built a gallows and chatted about murdering the vice president. They did this because theyโ€™d been fed wild, falsehoods by the most powerful man on earth because he was angry. He lost an election. Former President Trumpโ€™s actions preceding the riot were a disgraceful dereliction of duty. The House accused the former president of quote โ€œIncitementโ€. That is a specific term from the criminal law. Let me just put that aside for a moment and reiterate something I said weeks ago. Thereโ€™s no question, none, that President Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day. No question about it.

The people who stormed this building believed they were acting on the wishes and instructions of their president and having that belief was a foreseeable consequence of the growing crescendo of false statements, conspiracy theories, and reckless hyperbole, which the defeated president kept shouting into the largest megaphone on planet Earth. The issue is not only the president intemperate language on January 6th. It is not just his endorsement of remarks in which an associate urged quote โ€œTrial by combatโ€. It was also the entire manufactured atmosphere of looming catastrophe. The increasingly wild myths about a reverse landslide election that was somehow being stolen. Some secret coup by our now president.

Now I defended the presidentโ€™s right to bring any complaints to our legal system. The legal system spoke, the electoral college spoke. As I stood up and said, clearly at that time, the election was settled. It was over, but that just really opened a new chapter of even wilder and more unfounded claims.The leader of the free world cannot spend weeks thundering that shadowy forces are stealing our country and then feign surprise when people believe him and do reckless things. โ€ฆ sadly many politicians sometimes make overheated comments or use metaphors. We saw that. That unhinged listeners might take literally, but that was different. Thatโ€™s different from what we saw. This was an intensifying crescendo of conspiracy theories orchestrated by an outgoing president who seemed determined to either overturn the voterโ€™s decision or else torch our institutions on the way out.

The unconscionable behaviour did not end when the violence actually began. Whatever our ex president claims he thought might happen a day, whatever right reaction heโ€™s says he meant to produce by that afternoon we know he was watching the same live television as the rest of us. A mob was assaulting the Capitol in his name, these criminals who are carrying his banners, hanging his flags and screaming their loyalty to him. It was obvious that only President Trump could end this. He was the only one who could. Former aides publicly begged him to do so. Loyal allies frantically called the administration. The president did not act swiftly. He did not do his job. He didnโ€™t take steps so federal law could be faithfully executed and order restored. No, instead, according to public reports, he watched television happily as the chaos unfolded. He kept pressing his scheme to overturn the election. Now, even after it was clear to any reasonable observer that Vice President Pence was in serious danger. Even as the mob carrying Trump banners was beating cops and breaching perimeters their president sent a further tweet, attacking his own vice president.

Now predictably and foreseeably under the circumstances, members of the mob seemed to interpret this as a further inspiration to lawlessness and violence not surprisingly. Later, even when the president did halfheartedly began calling for peace he didnโ€™t call right away for the riot to end. He did not tell the mob to depart until even later. And even then with police officers bleeding and broken glass covering Capitol floors, he kept repeating election lies and praising the criminals. In recent weeks, our ex-presidentโ€™s associates have tried to use the 74 million Americans who voted to reelect him as a kind of human shield against criticism. Using the 74 million who voted for him as kind of a human seal shield against criticism. Anyone who decries his awful behaviour is accused of insulting millions of voters. Thatโ€™s an absurd deflection. 74 million Americans did not invade the Capitol, hundreds of rioters did. 74 million Americans did not engineer the campaign of disinformation and rage that provoked it. One person did, just one.
I agree that Trump's behaviour and speech have been lamentable. Awful. I get tired of repeating that.

Because I respect your opinion, I'm kind of mystified as to how you can say some of things you have. When I point out the Dems have said worse, you tell me they're excesses are equivalent to jaywalking vs Trump's behaviour equating to murder. Where do you get that? The worst Trump did (and it was bad) was to say the Democrats cheated and that people should fight for their country. Compare that to Democrats excusing outright violence for a solid year. Those two things seem comparable to me. Hardly jaywalking vs murder.

When I pushed back on your comparison, you said that questioning the election result constituted incitement to riot. This seems to me that you are condemning the whole process that was followed, including the court cases.

Finally, I agree that the Jan 6 riot would clearly not have happeneded without Trump's actions and words! That is not the same as saying he incited an insurrection. Surely you can see the difference there. Apply the same standards to both sides.
 
Finally, I agree that the Jan 6 riot would clearly not have happeneded without Trump's actions and words! That is not the same as saying he incited an insurrection. Surely you can see the difference there. Apply the same standards to both sides.

umm...yes it is the same...you are making things up again as if fact....Trump law.
 
Bidens's approval rating is currently at 62%.....I'm not sure Donald dumbo can count to 62...How can this be?

 
If I was one of Trumpโ€™s lawyers I would have demanded to be paid in advance
Drunk Trump's lawyers were claiming that politicians talk about "fighting" all the time, and Trump only said it as a figure of speech. I say that's all bullshit. Drunk Trump watched the riot on TV for 2 hours, enjoying it, while his own Vice President's Mike Pence life was in danger. What an idiot.
 
The big lie of Trump falsely claiming the election was "stolen" was the incitement. For myself threatening the foundations of democracy and having the Capitol overrun at the direction of the President are magnitudes more serious than anything else, but we have to be honest and accept neither one of us is going to convince the other.

For now I am buoyed that more and more Republicans themselves are speaking out about how terrible Trump is for their own party and the country at large, Nikki Haley being the very latest. No doubt Haley, McConnell, Cheney and many others are also all traitors, RINOs, sheepies, whatever. It will be very interesting to see how this debacle continues to play out for the Republicans...
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Drunk Trump's lawyers were claiming that politicians talk about "fighting" all the time, and Trump only said it as a figure of speech. I say that's all bullshit. Drunk Trump watched the riot on TV for 2 hours, enjoying it, while his own Vice President's Mike Pence life was in danger. What an idiot.
Politicians do talk about fighting all the time. But, when they do itโ€™s always general. They key difference is when it is specific: a specific time, a specific place, a specific reason, a specific course of action, etc.

I donโ€™t think the Demโ€™s should have impeached on incitement as youโ€™d never get the Republicans on board as they would be looking for that smoking gun where Trump explicitly said โ€œgo March and raid the Capitol and hang Pelosi and Penceโ€. What they should have Impeached was on a dereliction of duty and failure to uphold the oath of office to protect the nation. Specifically, when the Capitol was under attack, and Pence was being evacuated, Politicions were calling on Trump to act, speak up and tell them to stand down and call the National Guard but he didnโ€™t act in a timely manner. Forget the argument that he incited it. Focus on the argument that he froze and was weak when it happened. The Commander in Chief cannot be weak in the face of an attack. There would be witnesses and phone records of people calling Trump for help to this. Put Republicans under oath about this and they couldnโ€™t lie. Call on the Commander of the National guard on who ordered him into DC and who he talked to. Call on Trumpโ€™s staff that was begging him to act. Call on the Secret Service to confirm that they procedures meant there was no way Trump didnโ€™t know of the attack or Pence was being evacuated.

Donโ€™t go after Trump for attacking Democracy but for being impotent and weak to defend it when it was attacked. He should never be allowed to hold office again because he is weak and Americaโ€™s enemies have seen this and will exploit this if he ever holds office again.
 
Politicians do talk about fighting all the time. But, when they do itโ€™s always general. They key difference is when it is specific: a specific time, a specific place, a specific reason, a specific course of action, etc.

I donโ€™t think the Demโ€™s should have impeached on incitement as youโ€™d never get the Republicans on board as they would be looking for that smoking gun where Trump explicitly said โ€œgo March and raid the Capitol and hang Pelosi and Penceโ€. What they should have Impeached was on a dereliction of duty and failure to uphold the oath of office to protect the nation. Specifically, when the Capitol was under attack, and Pence was being evacuated, Politicions were calling on Trump to act, speak up and tell them to stand down and call the National Guard but he didnโ€™t act in a timely manner. Forget the argument that he incited it. Focus on the argument that he froze and was weak when it happened. The Commander in Chief cannot be weak in the face of an attack. There would be witnesses and phone records of people calling Trump for help to this. Put Republicans under oath about this and they couldnโ€™t lie. Call on the Commander of the National guard on who ordered him into DC and who he talked to. Call on Trumpโ€™s staff that was begging him to act. Call on the Secret Service to confirm that they procedures meant there was no way Trump didnโ€™t know of the attack or Pence was being evacuated.

Donโ€™t go after Trump for attacking Democracy but for being impotent and weak to defend it when it was attacked. He should never be allowed to hold office again because he is weak and Americaโ€™s enemies have seen this and will exploit this if he ever holds office again.
Politicians do talk about fighting all the time. But, when they do itโ€™s always general. They key difference is when it is specific: a specific time, a specific place, a specific reason, a specific course of action, etc.

I donโ€™t think the Demโ€™s should have impeached on incitement as youโ€™d never get the Republicans on board as they would be looking for that smoking gun where Trump explicitly said โ€œgo March and raid the Capitol and hang Pelosi and Penceโ€. What they should have Impeached was on a dereliction of duty and failure to uphold the oath of office to protect the nation. Specifically, when the Capitol was under attack, and Pence was being evacuated, Politicions were calling on Trump to act, speak up and tell them to stand down and call the National Guard but he didnโ€™t act in a timely manner. Forget the argument that he incited it. Focus on the argument that he froze and was weak when it happened. The Commander in Chief cannot be weak in the face of an attack. There would be witnesses and phone records of people calling Trump for help to this. Put Republicans under oath about this and they couldnโ€™t lie. Call on the Commander of the National guard on who ordered him into DC and who he talked to. Call on Trumpโ€™s staff that was begging him to act. Call on the Secret Service to confirm that they procedures meant there was no way Trump didnโ€™t know of the attack or Pence was being evacuated.

Donโ€™t go after Trump for attacking Democracy but for being impotent and weak to defend it when it was attacked. He should never be allowed to hold office again because he is weak and Americaโ€™s enemies have seen this and will exploit this if he ever holds office again.

The incitement of insurrection charges were correct and proven...only the USA 2 party system where popular vote doesn't win elections...where states with 800 thousand population get the same number of votes in the Senate as states with 25 million... and 57-43 is a loss in an impeachment trial .The evidence was all over TV and videoed starting months ago right up to Jan. 6. There was no way a dereliction of duty charge was going to be proven nor provide the mass amount of ready evidence the actual and obvious charges could.... not to mention 43 GOP senators who were going to say not guilty no matter what the charges.
 
Politicians do talk about fighting all the time. But, when they do itโ€™s always general. They key difference is when it is specific: a specific time, a specific place, a specific reason, a specific course of action, etc.

I donโ€™t think the Demโ€™s should have impeached on incitement as youโ€™d never get the Republicans on board as they would be looking for that smoking gun where Trump explicitly said โ€œgo March and raid the Capitol and hang Pelosi and Penceโ€. What they should have Impeached was on a dereliction of duty and failure to uphold the oath of office to protect the nation. Specifically, when the Capitol was under attack, and Pence was being evacuated, Politicions were calling on Trump to act, speak up and tell them to stand down and call the National Guard but he didnโ€™t act in a timely manner. Forget the argument that he incited it. Focus on the argument that he froze and was weak when it happened. The Commander in Chief cannot be weak in the face of an attack. There would be witnesses and phone records of people calling Trump for help to this. Put Republicans under oath about this and they couldnโ€™t lie. Call on the Commander of the National guard on who ordered him into DC and who he talked to. Call on Trumpโ€™s staff that was begging him to act. Call on the Secret Service to confirm that they procedures meant there was no way Trump didnโ€™t know of the attack or Pence was being evacuated.

Donโ€™t go after Trump for attacking Democracy but for being impotent and weak to defend it when it was attacked. He should never be allowed to hold office again because he is weak and Americaโ€™s enemies have seen this and will exploit this if he ever holds office again.
This is a more reasonable argument. I am just not sure it's accurate.

According to the timelines I've seen, Trump concluded his speech at 1:00 p.m. This is the speech where he told people to "fight like hell", or words to that effect. By 1:30 p.m., trouble had started at the Capitol. By 2:30 p.m. he was tweeting out that people should cooperate with Capitol police and stay peaceful. At 3:15 p.m. he asked everyone to remain peaceful and be the party of law and order.

If you want to say this was dereliction of duty, I'd certainly take the whole picture into account and consider it...but if that's the standard, why are we not holding Dems to it as well?
 
The incitement of insurrection charges were correct and proven...only the USA 2 party system where popular vote doesn't win elections...where states with 800 thousand population get the same number of votes in the Senate as states with 25 million... and 57-43 is a loss in an impeachment trial .The evidence was all over TV and videoed starting months ago right up to Jan. 6. There was no way a dereliction of duty charge was going to be proven nor provide the mass amount of ready evidence the actual and obvious charges could.... not to mention 43 GOP senators who were going to say not guilty no matter what the charges.

Umm...the popular vote doesn't necessarily win elections here either. And the fact that all states get the same number of senators is actually an example of the genius of the founding fathers. That formula has ensured unity through times even tougher than what we see today. Strictly speaking, the U.S. does not have a two party system.
 
Reports do not show Trump the National guard but other leaders did instead. Report have Pence calling out the guard and the Governor and Mayor working with Pelosi and Schumer (not Trump).


Trump could have tweeted in all caps โ€œSTOP THIS ATTACK OU OUR GOVERNMENT NOW!โ€ Or โ€œTHESE INSURRECTIONISTS WILL PAY!โ€ Immediately (within a minute or Two) then go on TV. If he wasnโ€™t coordinating with the National Guard and not making immediate public statements what was he doing as is demanded in the role of Commander in Chief to stop this?

There are reports of a McCarthy to Trump Jan 6th phone call asking for help and Trumpโ€™s response was to fight harder to overturn the results with others confirming that call happened, Trumpโ€™s staff urging him to react, etc. all could have been used. But, with 14days left in his presidency the timeline was very tight to compile all that.
 
Reports do not show Trump the National guard but other leaders did instead. Report have Pence calling out the guard and the Governor and Mayor working with Pelosi and Schumer (not Trump).


Trump could have tweeted in all caps โ€œSTOP THIS ATTACK OU OUR GOVERNMENT NOW!โ€ Or โ€œTHESE INSURRECTIONISTS WILL PAY!โ€ Immediately (within a minute or Two) then go on TV. If he wasnโ€™t coordinating with the National Guard and not making immediate public statements what was he doing as is demanded in the role of Commander in Chief to stop this?

There are reports of a McCarthy to Trump Jan 6th phone call asking for help and Trumpโ€™s response was to fight harder to overturn the results with others confirming that call happened, Trumpโ€™s staff urging him to react, etc. all could have been used. But, with 14days left in his presidency the timeline was very tight to compile all that.
I'd be prepared to accept that argument, and see Trump blamed for the right thing. But what about a year of allowing rioting in the streets of Portland, Seattle and other cities where people were killed, businesses burned etc. No outrage for that?
 
The incitement of insurrection charges were correct and proven...only the USA 2 party system where popular vote doesn't win elections...where states with 800 thousand population get the same number of votes in the Senate as states with 25 million... and 57-43 is a loss in an impeachment trial .The evidence was all over TV and videoed starting months ago right up to Jan. 6. There was no way a dereliction of duty charge was going to be proven nor provide the mass amount of ready evidence the actual and obvious charges could.... not to mention 43 GOP senators who were going to say not guilty no matter what the charges.
I think he did incite the riot but Iโ€™m saying it wasnโ€™t the right way to go after Trump.

Al Capone had people murdered but Elliot Ness got Capone on Tax Evasion. Itโ€™s just โ€œwhat is the best way to get himโ€ argument and which way has the higher percentage success probability.
 
Umm...the popular vote doesn't necessarily win elections here either. And the fact that all states get the same number of senators is actually an example of the genius of the founding fathers. That formula has ensured unity through times even tougher than what we see today. Strictly speaking, the U.S. does not have a two party system.

You are making up your own story again....I wrote 2 party system which the USA has and the majority loses even when having 3 million more votes as in 2016...Canada has more than 2 parties.......there is is nothing genius about the electoral college in 21st century and Americans know it.
 
I'd be prepared to accept that argument, and see Trump blamed for the right thing. But what about a year of allowing rioting in the streets of Portland, Seattle and other cities where people were killed, businesses burned etc. No outrage for that?
I think we just stick to Jan 6th or we just get into a never ending back and forth and I bring up: โ€œVery fine people on both sidesโ€ in Charlottesville, kids in cages, and on and on
 
I think he did incite the riot but Iโ€™m saying it wasnโ€™t the right way to go after Trump.

Al Capone had people murdered but Elliot Ness got Capone on Tax Evasion. Itโ€™s just โ€œwhat is the best way to get himโ€ argument and which way has the higher percentage success probability.

The case was solid ...the evidence all on video...dereliction of duty alone would have taken forever and is in fact defined by inciting insurrection. Keep in mind the American public and political system has a limited attention span....again the die was cast ...43 not guilty locked in before it began.
 
You are making up your own story again....I wrote 2 party system which the USA has and the majority loses even when having 3 million more votes as in 2016...Canada has more than 2 parties.......there is is nothing genius about the electoral college in 21st century and Americans know it.

No, the United State is a Republic, and nothing in its constitution mandates a two party system. Practically speaking, American governments have ever only been formed by one of the two parties, but independents have played a role.

As for the rest of your comment, it seems based on what you glean from watching what passes for news today as opposed to what you should remember from any basic American history lesson. I've spent enough time pretending you want to have a good faith discussion and I'll leave you to wallow in your ignorance.
 
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    FRIDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. Alice spa has 3 very hot girls today. Open 10am to 9pm: AMY is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. ASHLEY is a beautiful slim Korean student, snow white skin, 5'2, 100 Lbs, natural
  11. HollywoodSpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: MIMI & TRACY. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž MIMI is a slim Chinese spinner hottie with a great ass, great body slide & liberal services. TRACY is a slim, taller & pretty lady, very friendly with an extensive menu. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one
  12. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mimi & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mimi is a nice slim lady with a big bottom, & great oral skills to take you to paradise. Sasa is a slim & sweet Korean lady, about 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  13. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: LINA & CINDY. LINA is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best!
  14. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, LUNA, SASHA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SASHA is Indian, C Cup, 5'2"
  15. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and young student Taiwanese 25โ€™s slime open mind, young flirty Tina 30โ€™s with sexy body open mind and sweet GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  16. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : Friday Schedule โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Yuki 24, Korean Slim , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  17. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Mia๏ผŒyoung girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Aad,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  18. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Ivy , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  19. Red_Pearl_Spa:
    โค๐Ÿ’‹4385 Sheppard Avenue east, unit 5 ๐Ÿ”บ๏ธ๐Ÿ’‹โฃ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ”ดFriday, ๐Ÿ’ž๐Ÿ’‹ Kelly, ๐Ÿ’–today for an amazing treatment... 5'5", long light brown hair, at least C's...๐Ÿ’‹โฃ โ˜Ž๏ธ 647 352-1588โ˜Ž๏ธ
  20. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  21. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธIvyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  22. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Yumi๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ’‹A striking new tall gorgeous Korean model with long, flowing reddish-brown hair cascading down her back and a slender, elegant figure that exudes grace and poise. Yumiโ€™s natural confidence and allure, make her approa
  23. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธCindy๐ŸŒธCindy๐ŸŒธJessica๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธNina Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  24. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ PAOLA, AMMU, KIRAN, AMANDA, SUMMER, ASHA, PREETI, ANGELINA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  25. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ˜˜Table shower ใ€body scrub ใ€ Sea salt bath๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Young girl Cherry (Student)๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜โ€œcharming breasts.โ€beautiful curvy hips.โ€very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the
  26. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Kiki and Judy are at work. They are both young and pretty. They are great at deep and relaxing massages.
  27. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Young Beautiful Girls : New Girl Joy, Ellagant Ella, Hottie Hattie, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿฌ๐ŸญHattie๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  28. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Natalie filipina mixed Petite girl Jessica Pretty Girl with amazing personality and super easy to get along with. Sasa friendly Vietnamese Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl
  29. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Friday April 25, 2025, our attendants will be Cici ๐Ÿ˜˜, Opal ๐Ÿ˜˜, Vicky ๐Ÿฅฐ, Carla โค and Ada ๐Ÿฅฐ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  30. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Terrific Thursday ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakville โœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Tiffany, Joey, Julie, Aaliyah, Coco, Yui, Meghan, Michelle & New 34D Jasmineโ€”โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  31. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa :๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Thursday Schedule ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณSana 23, , Punjabi girl , very pretty 36 DDD ๐Ÿ˜ˆGFE โค๏ธElena ( Latino ) Big Nature Boobs & SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  32. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl Tina works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  33. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower body scrub Sea Salt Bath๐Ÿ‘every day 3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Nice girl Mia โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 36 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, back walking has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will b
  34. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10.on Thursday ,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…beautiful Jessica come back,deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide๐Ÿ…sunny very good looking,big breasted sweet sensual touch really popular ๐ŸŒนlong hair very young beautiful Lily ,friendly smile,,slim body back. Walk,hot stone,cupping ,more experience โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ,must try
  35. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude
  36. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, PAOLA, ASHA, ANGELINA, SONIA, SALMA, MEGAN ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  37. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธAlisaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  38. HollywoodSpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: CINDY, JENNY & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž CINDY is a slim & pretty lady with long dark hair and a pleasing personality. JENNY is slim, attractive, with a tight frame and service with a smile. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one.
  39. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  40. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl Tina works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  42. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: ASHLEY is a beautiful slim Korean student, snow white skin, 5'2, 100 Lbs, natural C Cup, pink nipples, baby face & voice, can accomodate bbbj cim cof rim dfk, excellent services. KITTY (12pm-9pm) is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business.
  43. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa :๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Thursday Schedule ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณSana 23, , Punjabi girl , very pretty 36 DDD ๐Ÿ˜ˆGFE โค๏ธElena ( Latino ) Big Nature Boobs & SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  44. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  45. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Yuki ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  46. Funlooker:
    Introducing Funlooker - We are a high-class escort agency representing extremely beautiful, passionate, intelligent and sexual girls in Bangkok, Barcelona, Berlin, China, Kuala Lumpur, London, New York, Paris and Tokyo - funlooker.co
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, MIA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile. Come and enjoy.
  48. Golden Sunshine Spa:
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