GFE vs. PSE

Personally I can't see a lot of difference between the two points of view as Ref sees them. I think the greatest mind massageplanet.net has ever laid claim to as one of its own, Zen Master Poolie, made a good starting point for discussion about whether you can truly separate the physical realm from the psychological realm with regards to sex and its motivating factors. It is obvious to me the two character types Ref portrayed represents a sort of inner feud within Ref where his masculine side feels overpowered by his feminine side and need for emotional intimacy whereby a restoration of balance is achieved in his world through projection and contempt of others who he perceives as having similar weaknesses to his own which he refers to as the cuddler type john and by distancing himself through overcompensation and association with the pornstar fucking john such that he doesn't have to embrace and accept the deeper emotional feelings he is at some level aware of thereby feeling vulnerable and perhaps weaker in the process of doing so at least initially but which would ironically give him a source of inner strength and peace later on because of a better awareness of the person he has become.
 
I think Ralphie's freestyle pretty much sums up the great GFE/PSE debate.

Hey yo, Andy
Look kinda funny,
Go eat macaroni,
Game playing funny.

Let me tell you something Andy,
Go get candy,
And then have some candy.

What you do with that candy Andy?
Eat it?
Or scratch it like candy?

What you gonna do when we chillin,
Out in the willin billin,
And they don't know how we do, we straight kill it.

He likes Candy,
And Andy,

You know how we go to the family.
And fly a plane like Candy,
With the Candy, Andy.
Aiight...

Truer words have never been spoken.

PS Sorry about that. I'm just beyond bored and this Ralphie freestyle popped into my head.
 
enuf already Rusty, I'll lend ya my super Nintendo if you'll stop posting gibberish to ease your boredom!
 
Well said. That's one of the best statements about the hobby I've seen recently.
 
Ditto. They don't call him "The Ladies Man" for nothing.
He has a healthy attitude about the hobby in general!
 
Ref, guess I was having too Good-a-time this weekend to clue into your words of wisdom.

As Zen master noted, whatever acronym, it is about what's desire/seek/lack. If getting plentiful of whatever seek in 'real life', whether GFE or PFE, there would be no MPs or MPAs.

Few would go to Ruth's Chris, if their diets are "huge slabs of USDA Prime beef broiled at 1,800 degrees Farenheit".
http://www.toronto.com/feature/12887/

Or NASA send people to the moon, when answers we seek are here at 'home'?

Why waste $ when 'getting it' from dates/GF/SO? Perhaps the experience, convenience, variety or journey that don't often get...

Why surf porn, when you've live beauties to service your desires.

oil&gas, GT's hidden agenda, "... to take them away from all that...and my name is Charlie..."

TLM, wise words, "What in a name?"
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietn
  43. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบWonder spa(9421Jane st unit127)โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6A4H8.ensuit rain shower available Sunday RMT available ๐Ÿ’„Sunny is very big boost sexy girl ,she can provide very good massage with sensual touch, nice body slide,๐ŸŒนbeautiful short girl long hair Lucy can Reduce your pain,back walking,hot stone massage ,give you a comfortable warm holiday ,very popular must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿฅฐ
  44. New spring spa@:
    ๐Ÿ’“๐Ÿ’“sexy busty Singapore ๐ŸŒธKorean๐ŸŒธgirls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐Ÿ’“๐Ÿ’“
  45. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด:[/color] 3 Amazingly Hot Top Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: BELLA : is a young & pretty Taiwanese girl, busty D Cup, curvy body,deep bbbj, cfk, dim, finger in p*ssy, extra services, excellent service. JOJO : is a busty JAPANESE girl, nice DD Cup boobs, short, petite small body, pretty face AV Star, bbbj cim cof rim
  46. HollywoodSpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: BELLA & YUKI โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. BELLA is a slim beauty with nice melons, a slim waist, and round bottom. She knows how to make you very happy.
  47. ASPA:
    ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL.[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is slim and attractive
  48. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer, Mia & Sophia. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude.
  49. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: Amy & Suki. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills SUKI is a sexy lady, short with big boobs, medium massage & nice services.
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, LUCY, LUNA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. LUCY is a cute young Vietnamese girl, 5โ€™1โ€, 50Kgs, with a full range of services available.
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