Question Going rate?

If my hand is on the edge of the table and they grind their crotch on it, well, that's a pretty positive sign. Otherwise, I ask.

Or when they tuck their crotch in hard against my feet hanging over the back end of the table..tucking in either foot between the inner thighs. It's also an effective arousal technique.

For home based masseuses, an all in price for either an hour or a 90m massage is an excellent way to retain the clients they want to keep. Say, $110 for an hour, and $135 for 90m. Win-win. And the HE can be tailored to be a YMMV experience based on personal connection. Varying from very basic to some degree of mutuality.


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If my hand is on the edge of the table and they grind their crotch on it, well, that's a pretty positive sign. Otherwise, I ask.
I will second that. Happened to me with, what I was told, was a VERY legit provider a few years back.
She did a little groin grind against my hand and I twitched my finger about 2mm as a test. She giggled, grabbed my wrist, shoving my hand between her thighs, and basically straddled my hand, rubbing back and forth, while giving me a fantastic milking reverse hand job.
Iโ€™m positive that if I had come on too strong, I would have walked out empty.
Instead, I walked outโ€ฆ.wellโ€ฆ.empty!

I find less is more.
 
Or when they tuck their crotch in hard against my feet hanging over the back end of the table.
I usually have my arms hanging off the sides when face down. Sometimes they will strategically start rubbing my shoulder blades and hump my elbow ever so gently...
 
Many are now asking $80 for the hour and $60 for the ending. I stick to those charging $40 for the ending. $120 total is my max budget

Can you please share the ones for $120 for those with $40 for the ending. Private message would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
This has always been a question for me as well- If we go to an establishment that charges $80 for a massage and provide a 40-60-80-100 dollar "tip" for services, are we expected to tip an independent lady who works out of her own home who asks for the exact same fees (equal to $80+tip payed to AMP)? It seems to me that we should be paying less as the independent lady pays no income tax, EI, business tax, GST, license fees, etc.- AND what we are paying them includes the tip that we would pay an AMP.
 
I don't pay less with a lady working from home. Massage is the only difference where the lady pays the room fee. Which is around $30.

But now she has to provide and do her own laundry, perhaps buy the massage table, soaps shampoos, towels etc.

With no parlor interruptions, I find a good home rmt/happy ending can be far more beneficial so reducing pay for me is a non-issue
 
I feel that your dealing with a masseuse no matter where they work. You pay for the service that suits your needs, and budget, maybe you can't afford the better ladies so expect to get what you pay for.
 
I don't pay less with a lady working from home.
??? Still not answering my question. So- if you paid $200 'all-in' at a parlor you would pay the same at an independent?
 
I don't pay less with a lady working from home. Massage is the only difference where the lady pays the room fee. Which is around $30.

But now she has to provide and do her own laundry, perhaps buy the massage table, soaps shampoos, towels etc.

With no parlor interruptions, I find a good home rmt/happy ending can be far more beneficial so reducing pay for me is a non-issue
I also do not mind paying a home based RMT $ 80.
Her diploma cost her 25 K +
Her business license cost $ 1400.00 per year . In Calgary
As per Bob Laundry, Massage table soaps towels etc
And the best part is, if you have insurance .
 
??? Still not answering my question. So- if you paid $200 'all-in' at a parlor you would pay the same at an independent?
mighty mighty pleasin pappys corn squeezin !! NOW no more clownin..recently i have been asked for 180 for full service with an asian independant...at places like fort rd e.g. i have asked for 45 mins and it was 200...at new places i expect to pay between 140 and 200 for a range of services..only once i was asked for 300 by massage by jane..all the others have been reasonable..as for choice between parlours/independants the parlours seem to have a set plan of action and some even use the exact same terms e.g. "oh i came first this time"..the independants are more flexible but all are ymmv
 
mighty mighty pleasin pappys corn squeezin !! NOW no more clownin..recently i have been asked for 180 for full service with an asian independant...at places like fort rd e.g. i have asked for 45 mins and it was 200...at new places i expect to pay between 140 and 200 for a range of services..only once i was asked for 300 by massage by jane..all the others have been reasonable..as for choice between parlours/independants the parlours seem to have a set plan of action and some even use the exact same terms e.g. "oh i came first this time"..the independants are more flexible but all are ymmv
IT SHOULD BE 120.00 FLAT FOR EVERYTHING UNDER THE ROOF.
 
Forget trying to set a "standard rate", the fact is a tip should always be based on the offering and quality of service. Sure the first time you should pay the requested rate, if the service is not there you simply don't return. However good service should not only be encouraged but rewarded, otherwise the extra effort fades away. All too often providers get soured by cheapskates, or move to greener pastures. I recall that MIss V told me she preferred Calgary as the men in Edmonton were too cheap, I avoided falling into that generalization with her by always tipping generously. Sadly she eventually moved to Calgary
This is not a hobby where one should search out the lowest price, your not buying a fricking car.
 
You'd be amazed what they will accept. It's why they negotiate near the end when you're thinking with your little head. I like to try new places and stick to $40 tip for basic services and have never been rejected. If it's a horrible massage, bait and switch or I have zero attraction to the masseuse then I offer $20 and have never been rejected. Even if I was turned down it wouldn't matter because I would never go back to that masseuse. Completely different story for my regular masseuses, they do such a good job that I let them set the price and even then it's still in the $40 to $60 range.
 
You'd be amazed what they will accept. It's why they negotiate near the end when you're thinking with your little head. I like to try new places and stick to $40 tip for basic services and have never been rejected. If it's a horrible massage, bait and switch or I have zero attraction to the masseuse then I offer $20 and have never been rejected. Even if I was turned down it wouldn't matter because I would never go back to that masseuse. Completely different story for my regular masseuses, they do such a good job that I let them set the price and even then it's still in the $40 to $60 range.
in regards to the difference of generosity between the men in calgary and edmonton i lived in calgary for 35 yrs and yes i met my share of big talkin, big bullshittin, drug store cowboys down there who would like to throw around big cash whether they could afford it or not..i also met a caucaisian massage girl who laughed at taking a young soldier for a good chunk of change just before he left for iraq !!..im sure their are stories like that all over but i want to say that i enjoy the city and people of edmonton and i am proud to live here now..i hope both the customers and providers of massage in edmonton are all treated with respect, dignity and fairness
 
in regards to the difference of generosity between the men in calgary and edmonton i lived in calgary for 35 yrs and yes i met my share of big talkin, big bullshittin, drug store cowboys down there who would like to throw around big cash whether they could afford it or not..i also met a caucaisian massage girl who laughed at taking a young soldier for a good chunk of change just before he left for iraq !!..im sure their are stories like that all over but i want to say that i enjoy the city and people of edmonton and i am proud to live here now..i hope both the customers and providers of massage in edmonton are all treated with respect, dignity and fairness
My comment was not intended as a slight towards Edmonton, Have lived here for 40 odd years and love the city.
Just passing on what I was told, I am sure there are cheapskates in Calgary too
 
You'd be amazed what they will accept. It's why they negotiate near the end when you're thinking with your little head. I like to try new places and stick to $40 tip for basic services and have never been rejected. If it's a horrible massage, bait and switch or I have zero attraction to the masseuse then I offer $20 and have never been rejected. Even if I was turned down it wouldn't matter because I would never go back to that masseuse. Completely different story for my regular masseuses, they do such a good job that I let them set the price and even then it's still in the $40 to $60 range.
I am sorry if I am the only one to speak to this but FFS, are you saying you tip $20 when the level of attraction doesnโ€™t meet your sophisticated scrutiny? That is the most offensive response I have seen in quite a while. Having said that I thought I blocked most of the the douchebags on this site but you just added to the list.
Just because the lady would rather not lose your pathetic chump change does not make it acceptable to treat her so poorly.
Gentlemen. $40 for basic extras is bare minimum. Accept it and stop trying to find a golden deal. FFS your lunch probably cost that much! Accept that having a complete stranger touching your junk is worth at least $40 and maybe the rest of us wonโ€™t have to deal with the poor attitudes from ladies who have to deal with cheap ass fools like yourself.
I will also point out that I have never tipped less than $50 and generally am $60+ because I have no misconceptions of what this is.
Holy fuck!
 
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Agree with Spexx. I've never gotten a basic finish for 20, used to use that as a starting point but got turned down immediately. Even 40 rairly worked. Can't be bothered trying to negotiate to achieve my satisfaction anymore, unless they are asking for a stupid amount of money. Generally if they ask what I'm willing to pay I offer 60 for basic and we move on from there ๐Ÿ˜
 
Take a look at the service being provided. If one had to provide the expected service how would it effect your performance after an entire week, month , years? If you want better sometimes you get what you pay for. What price tag would you put on your own time ? If I go into a session knowing that there is no additional service it doesn't effect how I valued that effort. I tip well unless it is a terrible ordeal. Then I just do not repeat. Seldom have I found a session that was this bad. I still tip regardless .
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New girl Cherry (Student)๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, big boobs super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking spaces
  32. Shangri-la Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Freedom Friday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Aaliyah, Tina, Coco, Cici, JPN Yui, Super Happy, Echo, Selena & Dorisโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  33. Mr610:
    Renne
  34. EMSpa_schedule:
    Here's tomorrow's sneak peek: For Friday January 24, 2024, our attendants will be Ada ๐Ÿ˜˜, Opal ๐Ÿค—, Cici ๐Ÿฅฐ, Vicky ๐Ÿ‘ and Christina ๐Ÿ”ฅ Call 905-479-6668 to book!
  35. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spaโ™จ๏ธ โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ 5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 Now there are 3 girls working, sexy girl Mia big boobs 36 DD hot body slide๐Ÿ˜˜ Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Lisa ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking
  36. New spring spa@:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Malaysian ๐Ÿ’– Latino ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  37. JerryWangWw:
    Suko every day have different style 7 girls working here please call 905-597-8880 ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿคฉ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
  38. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Slim Sexy Chinese Coco & Young Slim Sexy Chinese Faye & Sexy Chinese Cici
  39. H-MomoBeauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Cuban girl Mimi in today
  40. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: BEBE : is a nice young Korean girl with a natural super busty DD Cup, petite small body, open minded bbby cim cof rim, always cooperative, excellent services. KITTY (12:30am-9pm) : is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business. Very friendly,
  41. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Mimi๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A captivating and alluring new massage girl from Korea whose elegance and c
  42. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒwe have 4young beautiful girls working everyday ,RMT available Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…,service queen Sunny,she is very friendly nice girl,deep tissue massage and nice body slide๐Ÿ…,short Q girl Lucy is very good looking,she got a lot experience,deep to relaxing massage,hot stone,cupping,,๐ŸŒนlong hair big boobs Mina very friendly amazing massage back walk every popular ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ‘๐ŸŒน
  43. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Fedi,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  44. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 9 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, MONIKA, PRIYA, ANGEL, SARA, PREETI, SABHA, SARIKA, AMANDA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  45. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Yuki ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  46. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, Address:6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan, โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 girls are working today, young sweet Vivian 22โ€™s and young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks 30โ€™s open mind, pretty GFE Tina and sexy coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  48. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietna
  49. OrchidSPA:
    Today is Beautiful Girls Cici & Tiffany. Cici has lovely Sexy Body and Provides a Smooth Full Body Massage. Tiffany is a Young and Very Sexy Girl with natural 34C boobs. Open: 10am to 10:00pm ~ Call/Text โฉ๏ธ (437) 220-6963 ~ 3601 Highway 7, Unit#103, Markham
  50. HollywoodSpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: CINDY, JENNY & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. CINDY is a slim & pretty lady with long dark hair and a pleasing personality. JENNY is slim, attractive
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