Meeting "outside the bar"

[Elorselommepe]

Meeting "outside the bar"

I really appreciate your suggestions, Amigomio. Without much thought, I've generally already followed your game plan of asking questions, regular visits, and gaining confidence. Usually I'll just bang a girl once, and that's it. This is an extremely rare circumstance that I repeat multiple times with same girl, then have interest in a fake GFE fantasy date outside the club.

In my mind there are only 5 main clubs now. AB used to be top, but I'll put them at #2 now in popularity. IMHO, from top to bottom:
1. HK (mix of locals + Americans)
2. AB (mix of locals + Americans)
3. Chavelas (more locals)
4. Tropical Bar (more locals)
5. Chicago Club (more Americanos)

Chicago Club used to be #2, but they have realy gone downhill since HK's refurbishment and expansion a few years ago.

So, when you say "big, expensive clubs" that have the restrictive no customer outside policy, which clubs are you referring to specifically? I never knew girls could be fined, suspended, and let go. This is a girl's personal time before/after work, or her day off, so clubs still can control them?
Maybe club policy is a reason some girls hesitate to meet outside? However, it seems that I do see girls exchange phone #s with customers, and they get calls/texts, etc. What's the point of this if not to sometimes meet outside.

 

[Graci]

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Darshman wants to "meet outside the bar" with a girl.

Good, it can be done, but like I mentioned in another post, the mongers here have no patience for this kind of stuff.

For starters you need a regular. Only a regular girl that sees you as a "friend" will accept going out on a different thing like meeting at the "workplace".

Next to win the confidence of girl takes a little time, regular visits, invest on her and start working from nothing, suggesting on the side to meet elsewhere without getting to do it.
Then work your way up to the point that you can ask her the question "let's meet before/after work".

But, to do this, you need more homework to think about:

1. You need to know if she is married/ has a BF/ has a pimp
This really makes a difference.

2. If she is going to do it for fun or for a compensation.
Really important too. You are the one that has to tell her "we are only going to have fun, nothing more" or the other way around "we are having sex".

3. You have to be totally honest in the way you lay it to her. Fun/sex/lunch/dinner whatever, she is in the Business. She knows when a costumer is BSing her.

4. On the other hand you have to "read" the situation: "is she playing with me?". Is she honest in what she will be doing?

5. Always work at the same time on several girl options as backup. Just in the sense to get a hold of how different girls act in the same situation of being asked to go out.




Ps: Darsh, you asked if clubs are on the girls, tracking their moves with customers. The big expensive clubs do not allow the girls to see customers outside the premises.
Of course the girls care less about this, but if caught, they will be fined, suspended, let-go.

 

[goodluckwithhat]

Meeting "outside the bar"

That's a great personal story, Mutunus. Thank you for sharing. Maybe it's something I'll do in the future, but I would avoid taking the puta's children. $100/day is very fair since no sex was involved. This would be equivalent to her selling & drinking 41 bebidas per day at the current exchange rate (very few chicas can pull this off, even on Fri or Sat). I'm sure you did her a favor too by taking her to the tourist and arch sites she had otherwise never visited before in her own country. I have noticed that in very poor and rural areas, it is common for the local people to not have even traveled to nearby tourist sites due to cost of travel and admission, etc. I say this because I was in China a year ago in a small, poor, rural city called Longzhou, which is a city close to bordering Hanoi in Vietnam. I visited the local red light district, and the lady asked me to take her to a local tourist site just 30 minutes away because she had never been there before.

 

[Marc M]

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Many yrs ago, I took a chica from a Revolucion bar called San Souci to Mexico City and Puebla for 5 days. I paid her airfare, $100/day plus meals and lodging for her and son. Because her son was along, we didn't have sex although I noticed she had some condoms in her purse.

Visited some tourist sites, arch sites, etc. It was a nice informative trip. She wasn't pushy or demanding drinks or gifts or some such only an occasional treat for her son.

At the end, she thanked me, and I never saw her again. I think the 5 bills were enough to get her into a different line of work.

I'd do it again but I think these days, it's more about business than what it used to be in the day.

 

[Kat W]

Meeting "outside the bar"

Thanks, goodquestions. I would not say "sex might happen." I'm paying to make sure it happens. The only thing worse than dating a regular girl and not getting laid is "dating" a puta and not getting laid. They are all in TJ to make money, so I do not have any illusion that this is not a real date, or that I want her to be my girlfriend/novia, or thinking about marriage. By paying for this professional date, you set clear expectations, boundaries, and guarantee a result you want.

 

[sophparis]

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I think this may surprise my fellow mongers around here but I think is cool what you are trying to do Darshman I really do. I would prefer that you said that sex might happen somewhere along your date but if not that's fine too. I also think is cool when guys are coming downstairs holding hands with their chicas after a session eventhough I never done this. I might get some heat for saying these things but I have good reasons for saying what I said.

 

[style_trek]

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It's exactly because they are putas that I will compensate them for their time, the same way they are essentially compensated for their time at 30 pesos per drink per 10 minutes. The only reason they are in TJ, often hundreds of miles away from home, is to make dolares.

I wanted to do the GFE fantasy in TJ in order to save money. I don't really care who too much who the chica is as long as I find her attractive and she treats me good. The fantasy is available on HX in the US, but I don't want to do something that is technically illegal in the US. This is why I do not bang whores stateside; also I can save some money by going to TJ. Factoring in all the ancillary costs, I am probably not saving that much.

 

[Maz]

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For the OP....just ask a girl out. These chicas are not so reliable, so getting stood up seems to be a norm. You do not need to compensate a chica for lost fichas.

The "war on drugs" violence has not hit the area of tourism and I find the nights best to go visit. I work days and cannot visit the Zona during the daylight, but you won't be dodging cartel violence in the Zona Norte or near the border and on your way either.

 

[k.webb]

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Hey, this is a little off topic, but seems like some of you go to Tj regularly. With the drug wars going strong how safe do you feel there now? Do you monger at night? Has anyone had any close calls or is the reporting of what's happening out of proportion to reality?
GT2

 

[Lyanna]

Meeting "outside the bar"

They're whores, dude. They make money by fucking.

 

[Julie H]

Meeting "outside the bar"

Okay, okay, I know I'm going to get a shit storm for saying this, but I have some interest in meeting a puta or bar girl outside of the bar, i.e. outside of their "business hours." Besides the sex, I want a little time beyond that. I know, I know, I shouldn't "date" putas, etc, but sometimes there's an interest in doing non-sex stuff. I'm not really trying to date them, but more like a fake GFE fantasy for several hours besides the sex. That is all.

So... I have tried and failed at this several times. I mentioned there will be compensation, but for whatever reason the girl flakes out. They may say okay, okay to your face, then when time comes she's no where to be found and will not pick up the phone. Recently provided the following as a compensation scheme I feel is fair. A "sex/room rate" and a "drink/bebida" rate. The sex rate is $100 for the hour. The bebida rate I count as $15 per hour (30 pesos x 6 drinks per hour = 180 pesos per hour. 180 pesos/$12 per peso = $15 USD). Also, I would pay for all food and entertainment costs.
So, 1 hour of sex ($100) and 4 hours of companionship ($15 x 4 hours) equals $160 total, and this is on a slow Tuesday when she has off. I just made this proposal, and the puta totally ignored me. Am I saying something wrong? These girls can usually only sell 10-15 drinks on a slow day ~ $15-23. On a slow day they may rarely go up. Maybe since this chica is above average, and maybe goes up regularly on slow days (Tuesday), she may scoff at this amount?

Is there some bar policy that the chicas not meet guys outside working hours?

For you guys who have met putas/bar girls outside the bar for some non-sex activities, how did you do it? How long did it take? How many times you already met her or bought drinks for her? How much did you need to spend? Is your Spanish really good?

Maybe this is my mistake. I shouldn't try to date putas or bar girls! Just screw them in the room and be done with it. Forget the fake GFE fantasy in Tijuana.