New Place - EMPIRE THERAPY - A real nice find!

[Viktoriansockew]

I think I'd actually prefer toothless to the choppers on some of these girls. Yikes.

 

[dani girl]

Totally with you - for 2 bills I would personally expect full service...but there are guys who pay 2 bills or more at places like candlelight or spellbound for a glorified handjob from a hot chick. And any sort of "body slide" thing has some guys waiting in line for it.

My only point at all about this place is that if youre willing to fork out 70/40 for a handjob with roaming from a 45 year old woman, you can do a little better here for an extra ten bucks and get an almost-nude handjob with some nice buildup from a slightly younger girl.

Yeah, the market for this place - with the 34th street location, the upsell, the phony japanese bullshit, the print ads, the sandwich board - is 80% tourist trade. The girls are absolutely not KMP quality, but they aren't toothless hags or grandmas like some of the other joints that are just a little cheaper...

I would add that I went once and never went back, which is sort of my pattern with places that are basically acceptable but have nothing really exceptional about them. My very enthusiastic review was motivated by walking in expecting a handjob and getting a nearly nude chick licking me all over and sliding her naked tits up and down with absolutely no discussion of tips...to which I said, naturally, "FUCK YEAH!"

 

[Tangerine]

I'm all about enjoyment but... In most places we all know that 200 get's you a full course not just a wack and walk. No wonder so many amp girls stand there waiting with their hands out ;because many dudes fork it. Just imagine how they would act if they had to work for 8-12 dollars and hour like most people do. I would love to see that reaction.

 

[Todd A]

This is a good point - the 140 house is supposed to involve some sort of "body slide" deal which I figured had to be fully nude but even then why would I bother? My advice was to skip that, but since some guys are really into the whole nuru concept, maybe someone can elaborate on whether the upsell there actually gets you something worthwhile.

Like I said before, I would recommend this place for the usual 80 house and then tip what you usually tip...

 

[TeenaStasy]

200 for a HJ with roaming? Even Rockefeller laughts at you.

 

[Eric Davidson]

That's close but I think slightly unfair. If you tip 40 you're getting the same service. So 120 total gets you the same massage and handjob you'll get in a lot of places for 110 but the women are a little younger than in some places though they're not crazy hot, and the handjob will be preceded by a lot of licking and plenty of roaming access. Really, the buildup to the nadjob is worth the extra 10, personally. I'm pretty sure the panties do not come off here, however - my experience is supported by the jungle that was apparent around the edges of Lisa's panties, which to me suggested she generally wasn't expecting to let anyone into them...

Yeah, it's just a rub and tug. Plenty of the places charging 70/40 are delivering it via older ladies who give less mileage prior to the hj. You can get blown for 120 in chinatown but for a midtown rub and tug, I would support this as a valid option if the extra ten bucks isn't a deal breaker for ya.

 

[NixDevak]

bottom line on this place, in plain english......140 for a massage and handjob with average looking woman with an occassional lick and peck on the cheek. you could do alot better elsewhere.

 

[Shark bait]

Stopped by last week and first impression was the place was clean with big size rooms. Was assigned Lisa who said she was Japanese. I would say Lisa is mid to late 30's with average looks. Hard sell on the body slide for 140 but I opted for the standard massage for 80. Standard TS and then back to room. Massage was average at best but the sensual part of the massage was pretty good.... She dragged her hair over my body, spent a lot of time rubbing/massaging my ass hole and small kisses on my backside. On the flip, she nibbled on my nipples, licked my thighs and the base of my sac, rubbed her breasts on my chest and again lots of rubbing her hands on my ass hole. Blew my load in her hands...

In summary, it was an above average session. My only disappointment is the age and looks of the girls at Empire. I know everyone has different tastes but I found Lisa and other girls I saw just "average looking."

 

[nmccune73]

Unfortunately, I didn't read Otis's review and went for the "bodyslide.". I got Tina, nice body, cheerful A cups, long hair. TS was nothing special, massage was ok at best, body slide reminded me of the old Rising Sun spa. It always wants me to get more. But only HJ with lots of roaming was available. $140 + $60 tip. Don't know if I will return.

 

[mommy811]

I have had two above average sesssions with Sue, but I think she prefers to let the others go with clients before she makes herself available. She has a rockin' bod, and I did some Russian with her the first time I was with with her. The 2nd time I blew some smoke up her ass about how hot she was and she took me on even though there was other girls available. I got a look at the new girl Cocoa the other day when I went, and she is next on my list. All the girls were busy, but she let me in the door to say there was nobody available. She is pretty hot, but I can't comment on her performance.....yet.

 

[Vic]

Went for a massage on Saturday. Like the other reviewers have said, the interior looks newly renovated. Was given Lisa...or maybe it was Tina (can't remember) because she had horrible teeth. TS was very thorough. Massage was ok. ST was better. She took her time and even used her hair and tongue. On the flip, she started sucking my nipples and then running her tongue all over (I'm not entirely certain but I think she licked my ballsac as well). HJ was good at first, but then she started getting tired after like 10 minutes. Sensing she wouldn't last much longer, I told her it was ok. She then asked if I wanted more; for some reason I declined...maybe it was because of her bad teeth. She cleaned me off with the hot towel and promised me she'd get me off next time. Anyways...damage was 80+40. I'd probably come again but would like to try someone else.

 

[Pooky]

On 34 st on south side btween 5 and bwy. I took the hour for 80, and tipped another 80. But the girl liilii wasnt much to look at, maybe 30s. Topless and only hj. Some out roaming but limited. Massage was ok but nothing I would go back for. Was hoping for a better sensual session from all these reviews.

 

[marshelle]

To the Moderator, their business cards at the front desk of this place say it is Tokyo Spa, but their front door says Empire Spa. I don't know what the hell to call this place.

Friday night, saw Tina; true about the need for dental work, but she is a little shower toy with a rocket body for her size; she is from Korea as is Sue the Manager I believe. Tina was able to deliver a pretty decent massage and made for a fun time on the finish; she is playful and sweet. When leaving, I was trying to get Sue to give me any indication that she might provide massage et. al, but her responses lead me to believe that is not an option.

paid: 80 house, 60 tip; no issues at all out front.

be safe, be nice, have fun
-dj

 

[Cub-oh!]

I reviewed this place back in September, and kingotis pretty much echoed everything that I described. I have gone back several times since, with each time receiving the same excellent level of service, if not better. They are adding new girls all the time, and if you are lucky, Sue, the girl who works the desk in the front will take you on if you don't like what else is available. I would recommend Tina, but wait until she gets her teeth fixed, which evidently is an ongoing process. It looked like she got walloped in the side of the face from all the swelling after having a few teeth extracted the day before I was in there last week. Believe me, she needs it. Cocoa, one of the new girls, is pretty hot, but she was only an observer to one of my sessions with Sue, as she was learning the tricks of the trade. I thought I might get a little lucky and have her join in, but she didn't stay in the room very long so no such luck. I don't think she spoke any English at all, and she was very shy. Thanks for the heads up on the LE presence. I will be a little more observent of the street traffic next time I head over there. Kingotis, thanks for validating what I think is a pretty good setup.

 

[alishaerin]

I definitely don't care about how anyone looks at me...and there's really no one I personally would worry about seeing me walk out of a massage place. If they tape a sign to your back that says "just got a handjob" I might object...mildly...

LE is another story. Notwithstanding the fact that they rarely have a legal basis to arrest a guy getting a massage, it's just something we're all better off avoiding.

 

[crazy]

As long as you don't know the people, who cares?

 

[Dewi]

It seems that the neighboring tenants know what goes on in there from the sign that was blatantly placed outside. Even without the possible LE detection, the looks you get once you step outside is enough to keep me away.

 

[Carlacarleewalge]

The vibe was absolutely different when I was there during the week, wonder if there was actual LE activity there or the appearance of it was enough? Damn, either way, that's bad news. After that report I'd hesitate to return...though the service I got really was damned good, with no hesitation at all or limit setting.

 

[builderbd]

Went by the other night around 7pm. Went in one of the tiniest elevators ever made so if you are claustrophobic forget about it! Ok, so go upstairs and there were a couple of girls. One was pretty cute and the other not so much. Chose the cuter of the two. Couldn't understand her name. Think she said Jane or Jenny. Average TS. Massage was unenthusiastic but alright. Thought more would be offered here, but got a little resistance when I went for UTC. Got a bad vibe about her and the place in general. Been in the hobby for awhile and something felt wrong. Finished me off with a little lotion and an uninspired HJ. Cleaned off and I just felt the need to leave. As my intuition would have it as I was leaving there were a couple of guys outside standing in front of an unmarked cruiser. They gave me a look and I just put my head down and walked down 34th and beelined down 5th Ave. One guy had a suit and the other was wearing jeans, but def LE. Not sure what they were doing, but I am glad I got out of there when I did. Maybe just a little paranoid but it is election time and who knows which place they will use to set an example. I would imagine a place that is high profile like this place for tourist mongers right next to the Empire State Building. I will stick to some other favs off the beaten path. This place was just not worth the risk.

 

[Neighbour]

Not too surprised - given the location and the advertising I bet they get a solid tourist trade on weekends...When I went on Wednesday around 8 the joint was empty.

Now if it's still busy next Wednesday, then I'm gonna start selling "Team Otis" t-shirts outside the place.