The cost of hobbying (killing us!!!)

Hobbying and woman in general have been more of a motivator to increase my earnings. Hasn't had a downside yet, but you never know.... I could get hooked on all five hour duo sessions! :0)
 
anyone want to start a poll on the board if you ever had an STDs?
and how long you've been hobbying?

won't be scientific, but will be anonymous and at least we can get some idea.
i'd doit but don't know how.
 
sweety I am starting to agree with you, we survived without them for so long. I really wonder what kind of life these girls have after they turn 50 and look like garbage and then start getting mean as the clients don't like them as much as they used to. Meanwhile the best years of their lives have been used to take huge risks. Not everyone who goes into these places is an upstanding citizen. Some guys have STD's try to kiss them , finger them, and worse. They get yelled at , called names, probably have to endur some violence if they are unlucky. Boyfriends/husbands who want them out of the business, and on and on and on, I agree it's a no win for anyone except the owners and the licensing board. Plus they don't pay any taxes and are making a fortune and no one is complaining about this, meanwhile the rest of us hard workers are getting taxed a crap load.
 
Whoa. Somewhere in there are a couple valid points, but they're buried too deep in the rhetoric.

Putting slavery situations aside, no one is putting a gun to these girls heads to work in the sex trade. They could work retail or office jobs. They choose not to, because those jobs are not as expedient, or as accommodating to their personal circumstances. the girls "win" too, if the are smart enough to see they job for what it is and use it to get ahead or get out of a bad situation.
 
I don't understand how people come in here and complain about this hobby like they didn't know what they're getting into. This is a hobby, something we need to release(no pun) those stress & anxiety of the day to day grind with work/family issues etc. etc. I'm not saying it's the solution to the problems but it makes you get away (for hh) and get back to the grind a little fresh. This hobby ain't cheap but cheap don't feel as good. If i was to start a hobby building miniature airplanes or some shit like that, fine but if it starts to take a whiff off my savings and affect mortgage and bill payments...the SO will be out of my life faster than LiLo in Rehab.
 
..Some of you get it, some of you don't. It's obvious who is who.
 
I agree with the " human train wreck " comment. Some of the massageplanet.netites here have actual experience dating these women. I know some one here will argue about this because they are one of the guys we call " pussy whipped " . You are taking your mental health for granted if you attempt to get close to one of these " human train wrecks " . Some of them have husbands waiting for them back in China, which I have heard from 2 different girls now in the industry that own businesses. Without giving away any names I am sure some of you have met them at least one or 2. Some of them have mental problems that the American Psycological Association calls NPD/BPD combination. Go ahead , google it and see if you have gotten really close to one of these monsters who failed in life and are now resorting to prostitution , because that's what this is, let's not kid ourselves. Some have boyfriends and have admitted openly to other girls they work with they have cheated many times on the boyfriend. I think to get into this business you have to have a low self esteem and to be a long time customer you do too. This is how diseases get passed , you can lie to yourself and say it's not but if you are honest you will agree . Some of them actually get paid money big money to go to someone's house for a fuck and this is all tax free. Ok I am not saying if I was a multi millionaire and I found a girl that I thought was the best looking girl I had ever seen in my life I wouldn't dole out a few $ too, but this is super risky at best, if the condom breaks once and she has something you don't know about, guess what? it's spread to you.
I think and hope I had an epiphany today that will keep me away from these places for the rest of my life. Today I got some great advice from a friendly owner and I am going to take it. I also suggest , to all of you , get off your asses get to the gym, get your confidence back and go after a " normal " woman. Although it's debatable if there is such a thing, but the ones that don't work in these places, you have a much better chance of finding a lifelong partner than one of these lying, cheating screwballs. Every bad thing happens for a reason, my bad experience and my experience today taught me a lesson that I hope will change my life for the better. I know some of you will heed my comments and others will just go about their business like nothing important was even said.

P.S. Today I met someone with a husband in China and a bf somewhere else in Asia and she admitted to this. One day I will write a book about what I call, " this tragedy from the croaching tiger " or something along that line. I believe after all the reading I have done, that Chinese mothers are responsible for this " plague " that has taken over Toronto. I call it horrible parenting, born in , well I just said where it's from. Last thing be careful everyone. These places attract seedy characters , I don't want anyone here to be a statistic , think about the risk and access if it's worth it for you. I know the answer for myself.
 
LOL ummm thanks massageplanet.netid. 8yrs in a room, almost 2yrs out of one. I remember when I 1st saw you too. Not sure about the turn my life around comment. My life has been full of amazing things, and the rest has earned me my stripes I wouldn't trade it for anything!!



Well, with extreme stories like the kind the OP mentioned, I highly doubt the hobby or the job f**ked them up. Thats more about their entire lives out of balance. And that can happen to anyone, anywhere.

This is a great thread/discussion!!
 
Poignant, profound, prodigious. Are you massageplanet.net's most interesting member?
 
What I want to know is if there are any veteran Hobbiests who have been able to maintain a marriage while seeing mps without ending up like scenario #1, herpes, warts and and infected wife on the way to divorce. I've been at it for 3 years, so far so good. I try to avoid pussy slides at all costs, but sometimes a girl gets a little over aggressive and stuff happens before you can do anything about it though..
 
Lots. Not having sex with your wife helps. and being careful in all other aspects (finances, whereabouts, schedule) is key.
 
I started "hobbying" when my marriage went bad. I have been very lucky in terms of my favorite MPA and a certain fav. at a downtown strip club. I had a negative turn on my income recently, and they understand my cutback. I don't smoke, and I don't drink much, live in a no frills bachelor apt. - and I m happy being single, so I still allow myself the occasional pleasure.
But the future Mrs. Smith (some of you know the joke) is part of my life and she understands that i will see her a little less - for the time being. I would not be a repeat unless I truly liked her as a person and she truly liked me...and I know that is all it is. Damn I sound too sensible.
 
Thanks for the definitions. I wasn't aware that so many services were available at non-Chinese MPs.

Both of my favourites (the only ones that I have visited these past 4 years) - first, Amazing Spa in Brampton, second, Delux in Markham - were busted and closed down.

I would have thought STDs in MPs was low considering the services they provide, but I guess this mid-40's dude may be out to lunch.
 
Amen to that. It's always something that happened to "some other guy I heard about"... There's been no shortage of massageplanet.netites second guessing their hobby on this board lately, and yet isn't it interesting that if you combined all the MPAs that everyone has collectively visited on this thread alone (surely thousands combined) there's not one person sharing a first hand account of picking up a disease and breaking up his family. From your other posts Sweety it sounds like you have first hand knowledge of every spa / MPA in the business, so why is it necessary to reference some sensationalistic news article from years ago rather than your own personal experience? You donโ€™t have to ban the business for the rest of us - simply exercise your โ€˜noโ€™ muscle. For both the clients and the MPAs, everyone's participation in the business is optional. If you don't like it, opt out.... don't suggest legislating everyone else's freedom if the real problem is that you can't control yourself.
 
Oh, we hear about the train wrecks. The posts come up every so often.

Anecdotes provide a flawed sample.
 
I wouldn't call pussy slides as the equivalent to coitus in risk. If no condoms, a lot have saran wrap. Customers have been noted to bring condoms for 'fingers' if not for the intended purpose. I would agree about risk being higher with less reputable establishments (you referred to the Asian places but I can't say). I've been asked to put on a condom when doing a pussy slide with an independent massage provider. I bring protection just in case, but always have some in my car in any event.
 
I doubt that hobbyists see SPs or MPAs in search of their soul mates, and those providers really don't hustle to garner a man's affection for business.

If you want to warn men about the dangers of getting involved with women who are more interested in your wallet than you as a person, I would say that this caveat applies more with respect to exotic dancers or even good-looking civilian golddiggers at bars or clubs.
 
I would bet bodyslides to pussyslides that the majority of us are caught up in a masquerade to camouflage flaws and weaknesses in ourselves.

Why kid ourselves? Shed the masquerade and what is left? The emperor has no clothes and the mirror is reflecting who we truly are. Our souls are then left true and naked.

Welcome to yourself.
 
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    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Slim Petite Chinese Vivi & Sexy Chinese Bella & Chinese Amber
  35. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Foxy -๐Ÿ”ฅYour new addiction at Sparkling Spa! A tall 5โ€™7โ€ sexy Korean girl with a wi
  36. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธClaire๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธEly Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  37. Squirtersmakemehot:
    Squirt
  38. Squirtersmakemehot:
    Squirr
  39. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธHellen๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธTaniaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  40. JerryWangWw:
    ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–Suko spa every day have 7 different style masseuse working here please call 905-597-8880 ๐Ÿ’‹
  41. AliceSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 416-298-0898 [/color] 3 Top Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: BELLA : is a young & pretty Taiwanese girl, busty D Cup, curvy body, deep bbbj, cfk, dim, finger in p*ssy, extra services, excellent service. CICI (10:30am to 9pm) : is a petite cutie from Vietnam, natural C Cups
  42. HollywoodSpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: COCO & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. COCO is an attractive attendant with nice massage skills & good services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ€™5โ€
  43. lotushubspa:
    Hi, Louts๐Ÿ’‹ recommends the best female masseuse to customers today, Anna๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’ฏ from China Coco๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’ฏ from Taiwan, Tina๐Ÿ’‹ from South Korea, living at 10737 Yonge St Unit13. Please contact 9052375885โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿ’‹ or SMS 4163565876, ๐Ÿ’‹Thank you๐Ÿ’‹
  44. Sunrise Spa:
    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is Coco and Kitty ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Reika, Sera & Cindy. Reika is Japanese, loves to please. Sara has DD cups and a medium build. She can provide an excellent bbbj and top quality massage. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY & NANA. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills Nana is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUCY is a cute young Vietnamese girl, 5โ€™1โ€, 50Kgs, with a full range of services available. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups
  48. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga kik and mia
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 girls are working today, young sexy Yoyo 36DD with curve body open mind and young cute slime Sophia 30โ€™s, sweet GFE Lina and pretty Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple๐Ÿ˜˜ - Brand new girl from Taiwan ju
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