To whom do I refer this client?

[PolotinnK]

My first guess is LDT, but I'm not sure. This client has multiple cervical ruptured disks, two fusions and severe arthritis.

I did some very gentle swedish, very gentle and localized MFR. I want to send her to the appropriate specialist, though.

 

[Matija N]

do you know of any good physical therapists in your area?


Patrick

 

[Carlie]

do you know of any good physical therapists in your area?


Patrick

Client will be in Madison, WI, rather than in my area...just kind of passing through at the moment. I don't know any PT's there. Do PT's specialize? And do any take clients that are not sent in by an MD?

 

[khorat k]

To whom do I refer this client?

My first guess is LDT, but I'm not sure. This client has multiple cervical ruptured disks, two fusions and severe arthritis.

I did some very gentle swedish, very gentle and localized MFR. I want to send her to the appropriate specialist, though.

My obvious suggestion is to find an advanced trained and/or Certified CranioSacral Therapist.

Brian

 

[FunctionalDisfunctions]

To whom do I refer this client?

My first guess is LDT, but I'm not sure. This client has multiple cervical ruptured disks, two fusions and severe arthritis.

I did some very gentle swedish, very gentle and localized MFR. I want to send her to the appropriate specialist, though.

My obvious suggestion is to find an advanced trained and/or Certified CranioSacral Therapist.

Brian

Okay....but please, tell me more. I am sure she will want to know WHY I pick a particular modality for her. Or at least I would want to know why, in her shoes. Do you have specific training with this, (the ruptured & fused disks, I know you have CST training!) and if so, what is it that you do for it? How does it work? Why is it the preferred treatment?

Thank you! I am very interested in learning more.

 

[Tanysha]

do you know of any good physical therapists in your area?


Patrick

Client will be in Madison, WI, rather than in my area...just kind of passing through at the moment. I don't know any PT's there. Do PT's specialize? And do any take clients that are not sent in by an MD?

yes, PTs specialize.

As far as taking clients not from an MD, it depends on the state laws. In Arizona, we have an open door policy, meaning that anyone can walk into our facility, say they are in pain and get evaluated without getting a referral from a medical doctor. Other states have different laws, requiring a referral for PT (which I think is silly). You just need to find someone who is really good with manual therapy and can deal with the issues at hand.

Patrick

 

[bennachie1]

What I see around here is that PT is so much more expensive because insurance covers it, and insurance companies require the MD referral. I don't know if walk ins are legally an issue or if the PT doesn't accept private pay, or what, but I have never seen or heard of PT happening without the referral/insurance pay.

 

[Miss G]

like i said, it is state to state. so, in WI, you may need a referral to get in there.

 

[tintin]

PMing you with a practitioner name/info in Madison.

 

[xxkristenlynnxx]

To whom do I refer this client?

Okay....but please, tell me more. I am sure she will want to know WHY I pick a particular modality for her. Or at least I would want to know why, in her shoes. Do you have specific training with this, (the ruptured & fused disks, I know you have CST training!) and if so, what is it that you do for it? How does it work? Why is it the preferred treatment?

Thank you! I am very interested in learning more.

Hmmm ... where to begin ...

CST also works with the clients body. We are trained to evaluate and 'listen' to the body to find out where underlying cause of the issue is rooted in the body. While her ruptures may be cervical there may be fascial restrictions in her pelvis that are related that need to be addressed to help alleviate symptoms. CST evaluation can help determine where the associated restrictions are within the body.

Once the restrictions are found, CranioSacral Therapy (CST) uses very light touch to support release. We always use the minimal amount or force necessary to release a restriction. The amount of force we use is measured in grams - not pounds! So, it is safe and gentle for someone with ruptured discs and arthritis.

From his new book, Dr John Upledger, DO, OMM states:

CST enhances fluid motion, releases muscle tonus, and desensitizes facilitated segments, all of which contribute to joint rejuvenation.

CST facilitates and enhances the body's natural healing ability and encourages the body to self-correct.

To answer specifically about fused discs, CST can help to remove adhesions and scar tissue as well as assist the release of any trauma from surgery from the cellular memory. We also address adhesions that may be present in the dural tube preventing smooth dural/spinal movement and causing pain down the nerve roots and out to the periphery.

Working the dural tube also helps to create space between discs which can relieve pressure on the intervertebral discs. Further imagery and dialogue on the rupture discs can bring health back to the disc.

An advanced trained / certified therapist will have the skills and the experience to work with the body in such a way, that even a client in the most severe pain will be able to receive and benefit from CST. It will activate his/her parasympathetic and help to support his/her innate healing process.

We see many Chiropractors, PTs, OTs, PTAs, MTs, Dentists, Doctors, and many others in health fields in our CranioSacral Therapy classes. There is a reason for this ... it teaches people how to listen to the body in a different way and support the body with gentle, effective tissue release techniques.

I, myself, have worked with humans and animals ranging from one day old to people in their 80's. I have worked with ruptured discs, herniated discs, fusions, spondylitis, spondylosis, torticollis, and many other spinal / vertebral problems. I get referrals from Chiropractors, PTs, OTs, Rheumatologists and PCPs. I have witnessed how amazing the body can be in healing itself and CST gives me the tools I need to support this process for my clients.


Let me know if you have any other questions.

Brian

 

[Pompal 09.]

Thank you, Brian!!

And thank you, too, Chris, for the pm.

 

[Pompal 09.]

you're very welcome