Young - Cool Israeli Therapist?

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Based on her latest photos in her Eros ad, google image search shows her as being Moran Atias.

http://www.eros-ny.com/files/257249.htm

I dont know how accurate that is, but could explain the price.
 
Exactly. The info you read here is a free option. It costs you nothing to get it, and you are not obligated to read it.
 
Look, this is one thread about an unusual and unusually priced girl. IMO, if you think she's nuts in her pricing and her clients a little batty for paying it - go read something more to your taste. For the rest of the group, the discussion shouldn't be interrupted by continuing bitching about her price. So let's end it now, huh?
 
There is a high roller section here. Maybe this thread should be moved there, since it obviously disturbs you so much.

I dunno. Why get mad if you can't afford the Ferrari? We can still talk about them. Or maybe you're one of those that can't.
 
"Better yet, for all those that can afford such frivolity, start your own ""high roller" forum, or consider petitioning the moderators on this board to create a subsection for "high roller" massage." LL7
 
Yeah, but who cares? She charges what she charges and she gets it.

What should people here do? Just not talk about her because of the price? What would that accomplish? I don't understand your point.
 
"On August 5, 2005 we started massageplanet as a virtual coffee house where people could come together and talk about the various pleasures of life." - massageplanet moderators.

No argument, just stating the facts; and I think you would agree that a $400 massage isn't exactly "coffee house" fare.
 
While I can appreciate value, I don't understand why someone needs to say whether the price is worth the service. Just state the facts and let each decide for himself whether the price is commensurate with the service.

There is no need to turn this into an argument of income or ability to spend money.
 
What distinguished massageplanet.com from the "other boards" was its; a) willinginess to let members share information freely without frequent moderator interference, and b) connection to the blue collar/middle income members who sought dollar value rates that mirrored their income, unlike the "other boards." However, it appears that "the game" has changed unfortunately over the years largely in part to deflation. So, if a guy is willing to pay $400 for a R/T massage, sans any extras, that's his business, but spare the lumpenproletariat on this board the displeasure of reading such BS. Believe me when I say, a $400 massage is an anathema to a middle income wage earning monger. Better yet, for all those that can afford such frivolity, start your own ""high roller" forum, or consider petitioning the moderators on this board to create a subsection for "high roller" massage
 
I had seen Bar back when she was living in the East Village. I have a thing for Israeli/Middle Eastern/Mediterranean women so that was right in my wheelhouse. Bar is attractive but you won't get more than a massage/bodyrub and it won't be topless or nude without a tip (and sometimes a substantial one at that).

The only thing I would say is that you should only really see her if you throw the idea of relative value out the window with other bodyrub providers and just pay the premium because you like that look.

I saw her once in the W. 40s about two years ago and haven't been back since.
 
She doesn't look that bad; you're being a little nasty. Then again, she is advertising in the wrong venue now. She used to be on Eros, where she belongs. That's a more appropriate place to advertise for high-rollers. To price herself this far above scale and seek customers on backpage is a little dishonest. Or maybe just ignorant on her part. You can get a really professional massage from a fully nude, licensed CMT with "manual release" (hj) for 180. Better deals are available. Then again if you think she's the most beautiful woman on earth or are in love with her, maybe it seems fair. Why the heck did she leave Eros anyway?
 
Judging from her pictures I woulnd't even pay her 300 for FS unless she was the nastiest woman alive and willing to do all sorts of ungodly things.

A woman like that needs to be robbed.
 
I made an appointment with Bar/Kelosun even after reading these reviews. I liked her looks.

She's an indie, working out of her apt in the West 40's. My experience is the same as everyone else.
Upon entry I was asked to remove my shoes and wash my hands. I'm cool with that.
Not a bad massage at all, but not certified (as she claims?). After the flip she asked if I wanted a release for an extra 100. I had already paid 200 for the hour. I was a gentleman throughout and I thought we got along well during the course of conversation. So I wasn't happy to have to add another 100 for a happy. I asked if the 100 included topless/nudity. No, that's another 100. What's going on these days?

Since I was there, and Bar is attractive, I gave her 100 for the happy.

Needless to say I won't be back.
 
This is crazy. For 400 you can have an awesome GFE and have $$ left over. Not worth it IMHO, although VeryRandy's Mossad fantasy does have an air of intrigue.
 
When somebody tells you its a take it or leave situation and FOLLOWS THRU with it. Then it seems that she does get what she wants.....and not necessairily puts out. She may have some clients that just want to be in her presence.

P.S. I have never heard of a 400 HJ
 
VR, your economics make total sense. If she is doing this out of pure calculation vs. naivete...then she is indeed very smart. It's still hard to believe that she has a 50% redemption rate on her upsell. She didn't do anything to entice me....it was really a "take it or leave it" situation.

I would guess it's more like 25%....but you really never know. Good insight VR.
 
I'm sure. Assuming that half the customers say yes, she's way ahead of the game. That would make her average rate per session $300. At four sessions a day she's hitting $1200. She is pretty and has a pricing strategy that will likely maximize her income without risk of burnout.

If she were FS I'd take a trip into Manhattan and pay $600. If she were Mossad it'd be worth an extra $200 to fulfill a strange fantasy...part of which involves exchanging intimacies in Arabic.....


VR
 
It makes one wonder if guys are actually ponying up the extra $$ for the upsell.
 
LOL....JR, I knew that would be your response. Sorry my man. I guess try one more time and see what happens. She owes you a free HJ after all this. It's hard to believe that she can charge $400 for a nude HJ and actually get someone to pay...but you never know. She was very adamant about $200 for nude with NOTHING else. I told her that was a full service rate and it didn't matter at all. She actually thought she should be charging more for nudity. More power to her.....
 
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  40. Lulu1980:
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  41. wonderspa:
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  42. Golden Sunshine Spa:
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  43. ForeverWarden:
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  44. AliceSpa:
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  45. wilson holistic centre:
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  46. HolidaySpa:
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  47. SugarLoveSpa:
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  48. Soul Relax Spa:
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  49. bnwellness_wilson:
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  50. Red Rose Spa:
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